DHS checkpoint refuals,lol

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Originally Posted by BuffCyclist

Somewhat quoting the guy you quoted with a CDL. I have a Class B CDL with HazMat endorsement. I had to pass through both and FBI and TSA background check to get the HazMat endorsement. When I go to the airport, I should be able to flash my DL that has the HazMat Endorsement and walk right through security. After all, its what the TSA agents get to do, so why can't I? I passed the SAME background check the TSA agents have to pass to become employed by the TSA.

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You'd think it would work that way ... but that makes too much sense for the government.....


I've passed enough Secret Service checks to fill a file cabinet... I can stand next to the president.. but I can't just get on a damn airplane.

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Originally Posted by clublights

I've passed enough Secret Service checks to fill a file cabinet... I can stand next to the president.. but I can't just get on a damn airplane.

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Lol I think there is a good number of folks here in similar circumstances. I'm trusted with more than 10 Billion dollars in very important government resources daily (I work with satellites) but getting on a commercial airline is still a pain in the neck... [facepalm]


(Not saying I should get special treatment because of my job or clearances, I just think its a bit ironic)

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Originally Posted by roberth

This is just the beginning, DHS will find a reason to stop and search here in Denver.

It is the natural course of totalitarianism.

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^This...our "leaders" have been testing how many of our liberties we are willing to give up. They do it under the guise of public safty and most comply because its convieniant or because they are conditioned to comply.

I first noticed this with when they federalised the mall cops at the airport. I make the bastards pat me down every time I fly. I also let them know that they are in violation of the 4th amendment and are tratiors to their country. I don't buy the argument that "they're just doing their job" either. Everyone has a duty to refuse unconstitutional orders. If even 10% refused to comply they'd have to stop as it would slow travel and disrupt commerce.

The sheep goes bahhhhh...

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

(Not saying I should get special treatment because of my job or clearances, I just think its a bit ironic)

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But you SHOULD get to skip the chat and grope the TSA puts out... I'm going to assume you've had a pretty high background check run on you to play with them kinda toys.... why shouldn't they give you a card or something that says: " hey piss off I'm a good guy"?

So should anyone else that can pass a secret or above background check. ( or whatever level they start the interviewing all your old friends and sometimes not so friends ... I had to do one for the ex wife..)

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Originally Posted by clublights

.... why shouldn't they give you a card or something that says: " hey piss off I'm a good guy"?
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This "Pre Check" program seems to be a step in that direction...a sort of "good guy" card/status.
http://www.tsa.gov/tsa-precheck/tsa-...ited-screening

Some states are offering a sort of "Good Guy" CCW endorsement that extends CCW privileges to allow CCW in courthouses, schools, polling places etc.
http://www.jacksonlewis.com/resources.php?NewsID=3972

Additional training is required, beyond that of a "standard" CCW, to obtain this endorsement status.

Sorry , in advance.. [offtopic]

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Originally Posted by clublights

So should anyone else that can pass a secret or above background check. ( or whatever level they start the interviewing all your old friends and sometimes not so friends ... I had to do one for the ex wife..)

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Just about anyone without a history of bipolar disorder can get a Secret clearance. TS and above might be more appropriate... that's when they start doing personal interviews with all your family and relatives and anyone you've come into contact with in the past 14 years... lol

So we make a 'good guy' list and then it's just one more way someone could get around the system. Bad idea. How bout we just admit the system does nothing and shit can it as a whole?

Best idea,

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Originally Posted by Jer

So we make a 'good guy' list and then it's just one more way someone could get around the system. Bad idea. How bout we just admit the system does nothing and shit can it as a whole?

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Originally Posted by brokenscout

Best idea,

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We'll return those millions of dollars wasted to the deficit and then if only we could think of a way to to have millions of feet on the ground in and around all potential threats to be armed legally and taking responsibility for their own safety and that of those around them. If only we had a huge army worth of civilians that were willing to do such a thing in the name of liberty and freedom. Hmmm.... how would we go about this... I know! We'll introduce MORE firearm restrictions on civilians and tighter control of firearms for those who have done nothing wrong! Yeah, that's it!

/sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Jer

We'll return those millions of dollars wasted to the deficit and then if only we could think of a way to to have millions of feet on the ground in and around all potential threats to be armed legally and taking responsibility for their own safety and that of those around them. If only we had a huge army worth of civilians that were willing to do such a thing in the name of liberty and freedom. Hmmm.... how would we go about this... I know! We'll introduce MORE firearm restrictions on civilians and tighter control of firearms for those who have done nothing wrong! Yeah, that's it!

/sarcasm

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Great post!