I was a Cruz guy from the beginning...

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Originally Posted by Gman

He signed a pledge to support the Republican candidate. If his word is negotiable, then he's not worth much at all.

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A pledge that Trump renounced in March.

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Originally Posted by TEAMRICO

None of that matters anymore, it is VOTE FOR TRUMP or ALL OTHER VOTES GO TO HILLARY.

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Strong assertion. Got any facts to back that up?

If you read the left social media they say any vote not for Hillary is an automatic vote for Trump.

Both can't be true.

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Originally Posted by spqrzilla

A pledge that Trump renounced in March.

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But a pledge he never renounced himself.

What if you just don't vote for Trump, then who is that a vote for?

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Originally Posted by Irving

What if you just don't vote for Trump, then who is that a vote for?

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No one. Not checking a box, has no count for a party.

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Originally Posted by Irving

For the record, I take back that I said Cruz should have kept his word about the endorsement. I didn't know about all the stuff about his wife and father.

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Originally Posted by DireWolf

I hadn't been aware of that either, but still believe he should have just taken the high road and declined to speak at the event....
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Guys, really ? I'm not a political junkie, or follower of the debates. However it was newsworthy, at the time.

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Originally Posted by asmo

Ross Perot dropped out of the election prior to the vote (yes he 'rejoined' 15 days before the election under major legal threats from his supporters, but the die was cast at that point and he knew it). Beyond that Ross ran as part of the 'Independent' non-party, making any votes for him essentially null and void when it came to allowing future persons to have access to federal campaign funds. He was only on the ballots because of the draft votes earlier in the year. Ross Perot gave us Clinton - Just like Donald Trump will give us another Clinton. Its the same play over again, just with a slightly different plot twist.



Every 4 years its the "the most important election in decades". Its bullshit. Voting between a Douche vs. Turd Sandwich will always get you something that you don't want to eat.

Hillary is going to win no matter what. You might as well brace for it and prep for the next election.

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Sorry, the way I rememeber it is Ross Perot jumped back in when Bush started rising in the polls.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

No one. Not checking a box, has no count for a party.

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It's not what Irving asked. He asked if you just don't vote for Trump, not if you didn't vote.

It's simply a question of omission. If one omits to vote for trump, they empower another voter who is voting Clinton. In effect, the popular vote comes down to whomever had a scant percentage of more votes. The majority of people are nullifying the other candidate's votes. The rub for non-voters is that if you have enough of them who would have otherwise voted for candidate A, Candidate B benefits by the omission. Any vote for a 3rd party candidate is effectively a self-nullifying vote which only benefits the "winner".

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

God no ... in fact I guarantee that had Trump lost fair and square to anybody, he'd still have run independent/third party.

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But he didn't and now its on TC to man up, but instead he turned into a bitter politician and sold out on the main goal here. HC must not win and he is surrendering to her or at least refusing to fight.