Rep Lamborn compares Obama to a "tar baby"

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08-03-2011, 10:53
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by Jordanls19

Cause part of me sees the root of the word liberal as liberty, which I was told is a good thing.

Once upon a time "Liberal" meant small government, lots of freedom and free market capitalism.

Collectivists, stateists, "Progressives" etc co-opted the term "Liberal" back around the time of the depression (when the term "Progressive" fell out of vogue, since it was actually "Progressives" that exacerbated the problem and made it clear they wanted to eliminate our constitutional form of government and free market capitalism to "fix" things).

When we look at the original term "liberal", that term is more accurately replaced with "libertarian" today.

Modern conservatives share a lot with libertarians (even though both conservatives and libertarians would protest such a statement). But most of us that claim the moniker "conservative" are in reality more libertarian than anything else.

The big difference between liberals and libertarians is that libertarians appear "liberal" when it comes to social issues (sex, religion, drugs/alcohol, morality etc) but agree with conservatives when it comes to small government and free market capitalism.
08-03-2011, 10:57
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Jordanls19

Who says?

Ronin, it was right there in the quote. [ROFL1]
08-03-2011, 11:01
Scanker19

So I took a test online to see what I am here are the results:

You Are 55% Conservative, 45% Liberal

Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

I'm making this a new thread.
08-03-2011, 11:02
Zundfolge

Based on those results I'd say you were a left leaning libertarian.
08-03-2011, 11:03
Ranger

Where did you take the test? Just curious. I also wouldn't put much stock into it, because either "side" is likely to skew the results to favor them.
08-03-2011, 11:06
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Based on those results I'd say you were a left leaning libertarian.

I'm assuming you took this one http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz

If that's the place then the Advocates for Self Government is a libertarian organization and I wouldn't place my affiliations based on their results. By the way, I wouldn't for ANY organization that is not proven to be 100% non partisan and unbiased. For that matter I wouldn't take a damn test, I would study the issues, look at those who support both sides and make up my own mind. It's like getting your facts from Wikipedia.
08-03-2011, 11:09
Scanker19

But its fun, and it stimulates thought and discussion.

I don't know what I am and I don't really care. To quote Letter From Iwo Jima, do what's right, because it's right.

Then we would get into the philosophical question of what is right.
08-03-2011, 11:11
Ranger

Well, I admit that I agree with you, it was fun to take the test. Apparently I'm pretty far right and WAAAAAY in the conservative viewpoint. Whoda thunk it? :).
08-03-2011, 11:33
jake

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Originally Posted by Jordanls19

Could someone, in one sentence, explain what a liberal and conservitaves are?

Liberals are evil, unattractive, retarded and responsible for everything bad in the world; conservatives are awesome, intelligent, right about everything and have never done anything bad, ever.

Oh, I forgot one. All liberals are working towards putting everyone in gas chambers.

I think that about sums it up :D
08-03-2011, 11:51
tmleadr03

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

Oh ok, that makes it a lot more clear to me... nynco is psychic! Do you know for sure his intent was to code his wording? What if he was brought up with the use of the word "tar baby" and just felt comfortable using it for this situation (and no way racist)? You don't. But neither do I, but I do like to give people the benefit of the doubt and will go as far to assume that he was not intending a dual meaning, that he never intended the phrase to be taken out of context and interpreted as racist. Like I said before, being construed as racist is political suicide. This is America 2011, not 1961 where a politician can spew hateful double speak and get away with it. I'd like to believe Lamborn is smarter than that.

Seriously his idiocy is not worth the effort. Just put him on ignore and then STOP QUOTING HIM SO I DONT HAVE TO TAKE MY BP MEDS.

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