SENATE'S GUN CONTROL READING * LIVE

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Originally Posted by th3w01f

OK, that really makes things a mess since I'm waiting on 2 NFA items that will not be here before 7/1.

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Honestly, I'd talk to a lawyer. Here's what I'm kinda thinking, either create a second trust for everything not NFA and move it there now with their names on it, and then use your current one for the new items and remove their names from it with say just your wifes on it (so she'll pass the BGC) and then when they are old enough add them as trustees. Granted if you both are killed in a plane crash the NFA stuff is lost, but it might be the best work around for now.

But here's the question and some here may be able to answer it, currently, do you have to do a CBI BGC/4473 on NFA items, once you're approved by ATF?

I haven't actually gone through the process yet as I was waiting for this shit to get sorted out before hand as I didn't want to get hung up in the middle of the process with a law change.

I'm still confused on a lot of the ins and outs of these bills. Can someone explain to me why one or many firearms that were purchased by me and/or my wife can't be considered OUR firearms? She and I can BOTH own a particular vehicle. Is the only reason we can't BOTH own a particular firearm simply the fact that we don't register/title firearms?

Not that I'm looking for titling or registration... just curious is all.

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Originally Posted by XC700116

Honestly, I'd talk to a lawyer. Here's what I'm kinda thinking, either create a second trust for everything not NFA and move it there now with their names on it, and then use your current one for the new items and remove their names from it with say just your wifes on it (so she'll pass the BGC) and then when they are old enough add them as trustees. Granted if you both are killed in a plane crash the NFA stuff is lost, but it might be the best work around for now.

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Emails already off to NFATrustguy.

Better yet, move out of this Marxist controlled state.

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Originally Posted by brobar

I'm still confused on a lot of the ins and outs of these bills. Can someone explain to me why one or many firearms that were purchased by me and/or my wife can't be considered OUR firearms? She and I can BOTH own a particular vehicle. Is the only reason we can't BOTH own a particular firearm simply the fact that we don't register/title firearms?

Not that I'm looking for titling or registration... just curious is all.

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And therein lies the problem with this madness! Try and define ownership in the context of this proposed legislation, without the use of some form of registration.

I can buy a gun for my wife without her having to have a BGC. We're treated as a single legal entity. We have common property.

This sounds like a liberal mess....but that statement is redundant.

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Originally Posted by brobar

I'm still confused on a lot of the ins and outs of these bills. Can someone explain to me why one or many firearms that were purchased by me and/or my wife can't be considered OUR firearms? She and I can BOTH own a particular vehicle. Is the only reason we can't BOTH own a particular firearm simply the fact that we don't register/title firearms?

Not that I'm looking for titling or registration... just curious is all.

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The Gun Registration is in the corner my friend, the ONLY WAY to enforce this is with GUN REGISTRATION.

I'm going to form an anarcho-syndicalist commune with all my friends, family and members here with joint ownership of all firearms. We can take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week...

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Originally Posted by Rucker61

I'm going to form an anarcho-syndicalist commune with all my friends, family and members here with joint ownership of all firearms. We can take it in turns to be a sort of executive officer for the week...

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Come see the oppression inherent in the system.

I see what you did there.

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Originally Posted by brobar

I'm still confused on a lot of the ins and outs of these bills. Can someone explain to me why one or many firearms that were purchased by me and/or my wife can't be considered OUR firearms? She and I can BOTH own a particular vehicle. Is the only reason we can't BOTH own a particular firearm simply the fact that we don't register/title firearms?

Not that I'm looking for titling or registration... just curious is all.

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The idea is that you could potentially pass and her fail a BGC or the other way around. For instance I know a guy who has a felony on his record, and his wife is a deputy, she can buy/own but he cannot, and she must keep her duty weapon (and any others) locked up without his access to be legal. It's stupid, but it's also unfortunately reality.