Constitutional Carry Act of 2011

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Originally Posted by lebru

While I support this bill, I am kinda pissed off because I just paid 152.50 for mine not 5 months ago :P. I think it would get a lot more people to carry a gun, but to be honest the fee for a permit really is not that much. Its 4 hours pay of work for me...and considering its due every 5 years thats really chump change.


Honestly, It will probably just get vetoed anyway. Remember Hickenlooper was part of Mayors against illegal guns? I think thats what it was called. Anyway, heres to hoping. :beer:

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I don't really mind this portion, what I dislike is how the Sheriff's offices run it and how your permit can be revoked almost whenever a Sheriff deems necessary. As a cop I do believe that there are those necessary times that can definitely be articulated, however I have also seen some things that I would say still are okay and still fly but I don't agree with.

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Originally Posted by KevDen2005

I don't really mind this portion, what I dislike is how the Sheriff's offices run it and how your permit can be revoked almost whenever a Sheriff deems necessary. As a cop I do believe that there are those necessary times that can definitely be articulated, however I have also seen some things that I would say still are okay and still fly but I don't agree with.

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I've got no problem with the way it is now, but yeah I know sheriffs departments can just revoke it whenever they please...but are there documented cases of them doing this? Just curious is all. I know it is written down that they can take it if they deem you unfit or whatever it says in the fine print when you sign the agreement, just wondering if they actually have taken it away for no reason, other than to just revoke it. I've heard of people getting it revoked for domestic violence cases and various other crimes, but never just for the hell of it.

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Originally Posted by lebru

I've got no problem with the way it is now, but yeah I know sheriffs departments can just revoke it whenever they please...but are there documented cases of them doing this? Just curious is all. I know it is written down that they can take it if they deem you unfit or whatever it says in the fine print when you sign the agreement, just wondering if they actually have taken it away for no reason, other than to just revoke it. I've heard of people getting it revoked for domestic violence cases and various other crimes, but never just for the hell of it.

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There aren't documented cases that I know of, just my experience with people, ccw, and the Sheriff's officer (I may be a little jaded working for a municipality...lol) that it seems too easy for them to revoke it....it my opinion it would "just because" probably not a court's opinion.

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Originally Posted by KevDen2005

There aren't documented cases that I know of, just my experience with people, ccw, and the Sheriff's officer (I may be a little jaded working for a municipality...lol) that it seems too easy for them to revoke it....it my opinion it would "just because" probably not a court's opinion.

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it seems easy, but I don't think they ever will without a cause. I mean you can look at RMGO and see how many permits are revoked annually, and its a pretty big number, but im sure they all had their reasons.

one thing i am concerned about this is all those people who don't understand gun safety and carrying guns around (think of any time you've been to a gun show and there is always someone who is flashing the barrel of a gun in front of people, regardless of if its unloaded you just don't do that) . That is my only concern, not that they will hurt other people but potentially hurt themselves.

wasn't it on here that someone posted a statistic saying a gun owner is more likely to hurt himself with his gun then another human being?...just something to think about. not that this should be thrown out all together, in fact I support it. but yeah.

Figures, after I change my mind about this bill, I finally get a response from a senator I emailed, heh.

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Dear Mr. Young,

Thank you for your email and for taking the time to contact the office of State Senator Mark Scheffel; we appreciate your input.

HB11-1205 passed its second reading today on the house floor. Senator Scheffel will give this bill careful consideration as it progresses in the legislative process.

Thank you for your engagement of this issue and of the legislative process.

Sincerely,

Caleb Crossland
Legislative Aide to State Senator Mark Scheffel

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http://www.denverpost.com/legislature/ci_17515948

Moving on to final vote in the House...

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Originally Posted by ghettodub

Figures, after I change my mind about this bill, I finally get a response from a senator I emailed, heh.

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Which way did you change?

Democrats are funny.

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Originally Posted by Dumb Bitch

"We will not be promoting public safety if our police chiefs, who are very strongly opposed to this bill, do not have any way of knowing who is armed and who is not (during traffic stops)," argued Rep. Claire Levy, D-Boulder. "I do not want to have to worry when my children go down to the park to play that there are people there who have concealed weapons."

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Originally Posted by Dumber Bitch

Rep. Deb Gardner, D-Boulder, said it was inevitable that a police officer in Colorado would be killed if the bill becomes law.

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Originally Posted by Irving

Which way did you change?

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I don't support it anymore; posted about it a few days ago

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Originally Posted by DeusExMachina

Democrats are funny.

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I read that. fricken morons