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It must be tough to be king.........
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It must be tough to be king.........
Obama should be at Bush Crawford ranch instead. That seems to be ok in the past. What changed...
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Originally Posted by nynco
- Economy was good back then.
- Bush went to HIS OWN HOME not an expensive vacation rental.
- Bush's trips to Crawford cost a tiny fraction of what it costs to take Obama and his brood to Hawaii.
- Obama repeatedly criticized self made capitalists that live like kings with their private jets. Do as he says not as he does?
- I thought you liberals voted for Obama because he was "better than Bush"?
If he was going to his home in Chicago this wouldn't be an issue.
Honestly, let the fiscal cliff come. The GOP is not negotiating in good faith. Obama is giving them practically all they want. But the GOP is more interested in defending the taxcuts for the uber rich rather than the health of the nation. We will be fine. The issue will pass and then once the new year comes Obama will be in a better place to sell taxcuts for 98% of America. The GOP minions that signed onto Grover Norquists unconstitutional oath to not raise taxes can then cut taxes without breaking that blood oath. To me its disgusting that these guys signed an oath to abdicate their constitutional duty in regards to taxes to an outside interest. If it were me in charge of the attorney generals office, I would start investigations for treason for anyone that signed that and still will not denounce it.
Ah jeez, my allergies are really acting up today... *Achh-BULLSHIT-hooo* Also, nynco, I honestly wouldn't keep jumping down your throat if you would stop and learn a few things first...Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
1- The Bush Ranch in Crawford, TX was hardwired for classified phone, fax, computer, and video. Bush did a lot more work out of there than he did on AFO.
2- Obama has taken more vacations where there is less than ideal conditions for him to carry out top-level presidential work, that's a fact.
3- Obama has played more rounds of golf (average about 4hrs per round) in his first term than Bush did in 2!
4- You (being most democrats) keep stating these tax cuts for the super rich... Obama will allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, RAISING taxes on EVERYONE who pays taxes- yes, those tax cuts were for rich, but also for everyone else.
4b- The policies the GOP has been supporting recently are better for the nation than these "Let's eat the rich" policies Obama wants. "Asking them to pay a little more" when they're already paying 65% of the taxes to begin with isn't going to help the economy. Anyone who thinks this, I have some beachfront property just outside Omaha with perfect ocean vistas I'll sell really cheap.
5- Obama is a worse president than Bush. True, Bush wasn't great, but look at the record- Obama doubled, let me put that in another way, DOUBLED! Bush's spending in HALF the time in office. Obama signed the extension of the Patriot Act PLUS the NDAA, that's much worse than just PA by itself. There were no attacks on US Soil/interests after we invaded Afghanistan, UNTIL Obama took office (See: Benghazi). Oh and let's not forget, Obamacare... [facepalm]
Seriously, how many sticks of dynamite do you need to set off in your ears until your head clears?
If Obama is a worse president than Bush then why are corporate profits through the roof now?
Nynco, you need to re-think your "Obama is giving them practically all they want" comment. The GOP is negotiating on the tax hikes...by all reports they are willing to give into tax hikes but want to keep them to less than $1 trillion. However, the White House is NOT giving into the GOP's desire to cut spending. In fact, they added increased spending to the proposal and want to have unlimited ability to raise the borrowing limits without congressional approval. The White House says they will cut spending, but won't guarantee anything and want to push spending cut talks talks until next year. In other words, the GOP should just take their word for it. We all know how trustworthy a politician's word is.
I'll even use a New York Times article as a reference so you can't argue that it is right-wing biased.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/30/us...h-impasse.htmlQuote:
WASHINGTON — Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner presented the House speaker, John A. Boehner, a detailed proposal on Thursday to avert the year-end fiscal crisis with $1.6 trillion in tax increases over 10 years, $50 billion in immediate stimulus spending, home mortgage refinancing and a permanent end to Congressional control over statutory borrowing limits. The proposal, loaded with Democratic priorities and short on detailed spending cuts, met strong Republican resistance. In exchange for locking in the $1.6 trillion in added revenues, President Obama embraced the goal of finding $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other social programs to be worked out next year, with no guarantees.He did propose some upfront cuts in programs like farm price supports, but did not specify an amount or any details. And senior Republican aides familiar with the offer said those initial spending cuts might be outweighed by spending increases, including at least $50 billion in infrastructure spending, mortgage relief, an extension of unemployment insurance and a deferral of automatic cuts to physician reimbursements under Medicare.
We have a massive debt and deficit. Why the heck should we put a cap on revenue (1 trillion) that is FAR short of working to pay off that? You guys don't like the deficit, well lets raise revenue to pay it off. Just like they did during the Eisenhower years.
If Bush is worse than Obama, why is the debt, deficit, and unemployment all way up since Bush has been gone?Quote:
Originally Posted by nynco
You just admitted that taxcuts for the rich, cutting corporate taxes to spur corporations, trickle down economics pretty much the whole GOP outlook on how they deal with the economy does not work.
It won't set in right away. But that is just what you said even if you don't get it yet.