Looking to build/tweak my bugout bag and figure now's the time to start preparing such an animal.
What's in yours? What's necessary and what's not?
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Looking to build/tweak my bugout bag and figure now's the time to start preparing such an animal.
What's in yours? What's necessary and what's not?
Food, shelter, and ammo!!!
Actually, basicly a good sleeping bag, small tent and tarp, ammo, mre's, first aid kit, flashlight and batteries, emergency radio, water purifying system(tabs, filters, whatever). spare parts for weapons, basic hand tools, reliable all weather fire starting stuff(bic lighters and waterproof matches!), knife, hatchet, e-tool, rope/string, compass, toilet paper, warms clothes, plenty of socks/underware in case stuff gets wet, hats, gloves. Keep it all in a good weatherproof bag, and if you can make it light weight, go for it!!!! oh! and dont forget LOTS of ammo!!!! possible even some in standard calibres even if you arent carrying a weapon chambered for such(bring some 9mm, 5.56, 7.62x39,12GA). you never know when you will have some sort of "pick up weapon" in a SHTF situation! another good thing to remember is that "2 is 1, and 1 is none" bring extras, stuff breaks! copies of important documents(ID, bank info, birth certificate yadayada) oh, and dont forget CASH! a couple hundred bucks could go a LONG way! if you end up camping out, park you jeep or truck or whatever a little ways off but still visable from your camp site(couple hundred feet off the trail or so) then try and camp uphill where you are harder to see than your vehicle. then if somebody is messin /w your vehicle, you still have the element of surprise on them!
This $hi+ is starting to scare me. I'm thinking the same way.[Beer]
My advise is just tow you're frigging house with you and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bjl913
My little bit of advise......first off in a SHTF situation I hardly think money is going to mean anything. I really doubt ID....Bank info......never mind you must be shitting me.............[ROFL1]
You can camp down hill just use your visa, mastercard, passport, birth certificate, mothers maiden name, DNA, or man card to block your position.
It works every time trust me. [Coffee]
Far be it for Me to disuade any "Red Dawn" fantasies,, But After looking at it with a degree of logic, I have yet to come up with the circumstance as to where "bugging out" would make any sense.
Invasion: Who? Other than the lefties already here,, China would be the only country at the moment with the capibilities of doing it. But why, They have already done that economicly, Why kill the Goose that lays the golden egg.. Russia? Maybe if Putin gets a wild hair, Not for a few Years, Still have to rebuild..
Nuclear strike: Not out of the relm of possibility, But, unlikely.. Besides if I recall, The corridor between Colorado Springs and Cheyenne Is pretty well targeted.. And, it's about 26 minutes between the time they touch the button and impact, So what's the point.. I'd just as soon go out throwing the ball to Dozer than stuck in traffic.. Granted given a couple of days, I could disappear real good..
Weather: A few minutes too a few days What's the point?
Riots/Looters: I'm sure a few well placed shots will presude them to move along, there is nothing too see here..
Terror Attack: Chances are You ain't seeing that one comming anyway..
So in conclusion, Run too the hills and play Rambo for a few days if You think You must. Me, I have 72 hours worth of food and water, a Comfy chair and "Red Dawn" I'm set...
fantasies........[ROFL1], At least I'm not the only one.
Most of Mine take place on a deserted island in the South Pacific....
Just sayin' [Tooth]
I was reading through that list of shhhtuff to throw in my BOB, and as I continued through the list I'm thinking this bag better have wheels. By the end of it, I'm thinking if I use my Chevy Tahoe as the bag, I may need a bigger bag.
I'm better off hunkering down right where I am. I have like-minded/well armed neighbors and feel our position will be well protected. ;)
Aw come on guys,, first there is the Bailout Bag,, then ya buy's what you want for your bugout bag...
and in reality you will have to throw away your cards cell phones GPS, money and vehicles.... and don't forget the "tracer bullets"
Stay where you are and protect what you got !! Bug out is a last resort to me.
interesting thoughts. I've been considering the idea of a BOB not so much on the idea that if something like "Red Dawn" were to happen I would be making my way into the hills, but rather was considering it based on actual need to have a bag packed that might be useful while in the truck on a long road trip, or a camping trip, or some other event...
As I live in an apartment and I'm fairly close to Denver at this point in time, I have no personal feelings of security with either the community I live in or the security of my home...it's nowhere near secure from any real type of threat. The most I could say is, I'd like to have a way to throw something in the truck that's useful in most any situation should I need to make a quick exit.
Besides, everything I can think of that's useful for a BOB to go is also useful gear to have in general should a disaster strike and I need to hunker down in what I have, I think.
So, let's look at it from a different direction. Instead of a BOB, what's a list of items that's in your war chest for when the SHTF and you hunker down where you are? Also, what sorts of preparations would you want to make?
got that right, we already live in the hills, so bugging out means watching the road... the very few neighbors we have will either join or run...Quote:
Originally Posted by StagLefty
You guys in the city are screwed
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Originally Posted by ssf467
[ROFL1] like "Night of the Living Dead"
but what I'm thinkin is:Quote:
Originally Posted by ssf467
I live where these guys want to bug out TO...
where I live the biggest concern is if the prisons somehow no longer imprison...
either the Federal complex, or the State facilities...
Carry some water, warm clothes, food, 10 essentials and fuel in you car enough to get home. Without a retreat and several years worth of food, you are wasting time. Shelter in place. I carry a bug out bag in my care so I can stay alive if I run off the road in winter. Other than that, I prep at home.
Westy has the right idea. It's a G.H.B. - Get Home Bag. Less than 1/10th of 1% of us have the skill to live out of a backpack for more than 3 days. My bag weighs 40+ pounds and is designed to allow me to GET HOME period. Yes I have shelter/food/fire starting/ammo/medical/fishing/cold gear/brandy(yes please)/blah, blah blah...but it is only there so that I can get home in 3-5 days as it seems every time I'm out of town some s**t happens. I have traveled nation-wide as much as every 2 weeks for most of the year and I do take things with me every time to make that "long walk home" possible, including having my luggage be a snowboarders bag that converts into a backpack - you just never know. I was in Las Vegas on 9/11 and had to drive home - so yes it does happen.
I have 3-4 day pack to get me to a FEMA camp
You a quitter sho you is. Um,um chil sho you is da quitter!
I hear they have plenty of trailers available.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssf467
...if you don't mind the formaldehyde fumes.
Obama/Biden Button, flip-flops, "Bush Lied" T-Shirt, and jeans that haven't been washed since Clinton left office.
If you have to E&E, gotta bring camouflage.
[Flower]
[ROFL1]
Don't forget your Subaru with appropriate bumper stickers.
Seriously, carrying stuff in your car is a great idea, with the knowledge that any foodstuffs will deteriorate at a more rapid rate with the heat. If you are at home and something happens, prolly best to stay put. I wouldn't be betting my future on just a "FEMA recommended 72 hour supply of food/water" tho.
Don't forget about tapping your water heater if the need arises.
I still see Kerry/Edwards stickers on old subby's and right next to them Obama.... course they are only going 20mph Downhill...
They're going to the Tattered Cover to hang out with their friends before heading over to the organic grocery.
I bought a firearms book at the Tattered Cover and you would have thought that I had burned a pair of Birkenstocks in effigy.
Here's an interesting set of views from a Katrina survivor..
http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/bl...ons/index.html
Now that I'm back in Free America/God's Country/CONUS and have my very own pickimuptruck again, I've been stocking it and some of the items on the list so far have been:
1. E-tool - one of the great creations ever. The new ones are great, Gerber makes the Gucci of e-tools. Just went to post to buy another issue E-tool and they want $70 !!!
2. Hatchet (more for attempted car-jacking or emergency egress than anything else)
3. Compass/Mapcase/canteen w/cup/Goretex jacket. This was my old standby from operating days, the compass and canteen cup are crucial. Inside the map case are fire-starter/heat tabs, water purification tabs. There's a Gerber Mk 1 stuck in between the clips holding the canteen on the strap.
4. Poncho, hank of 550 cord.
Still rooting through kit bags to see what other stuff makes sense. got an old E&E bag that might just get restocked.
Used to keep an FR-8 and ammo in my Jeep last time I was here for a while. Maybe an SKS and battle pack this time.
Spot on! Don't forget your cover story about canvassing the neighborhood to get out the vote!Quote:
Originally Posted by Falshrmjgr
Doh! Forgot the cover story. Yeah that's it, that's the ticket! I'm a "Community Organizer"... You know, it's like having a job, just no responsibility, and no paycheck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boat Guy
Yeah.. and I could be a Senator and then President.. YEAH BABY!Quote:
Originally Posted by Falshrmjgr
[Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang][Bang]
Dunno about the "no paycheck" part ... I know a former Community Organizer who was raking in plenty of jing ... $4.2 Mil last year alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falshrmjgr
Still working on the get-home bag for the truck, maybe a .22 of some kind (handgun or rifle?) probably handgun if I'm going with an SKS but maybe the way to go is large-caliber handgun and .22 rifle.
On my list of "things to get" is an AR-7.. see my earlier joke about it floating: They do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boat Guy
http://world.guns.ru/civil/ar7-3.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/civil/ar7-1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-7
Good call, though I haven't seen one around in some time. T'would fill the bill ... I was thinking something along the lines of a 10/22 but have always liked the AR-7. Kinda discreet too.
And no, not gonna leave any heirloom-class stuff as truck-gear. Don't have Brown or Baer or Wilson stuff yet, but something like those would stay in the safe or on my person.