A NH Dem says you should be able to buy guns with an EBT card (formerly know as food stamps). What say you?
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A NH Dem says you should be able to buy guns with an EBT card (formerly know as food stamps). What say you?
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No. Food stamps should be for basics. Meat, dairy, fruits, bread, etc. The entire program is rampant with waste and abuse as it is.
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Carl wise in am....
Interesting situation. The rep is a Democrat, and a very liberal, anti-gun one at that. But the his idea is that poor people have the right to self defense also, and since firearms is legal, they should be allowed. Honestly, that point I agree with. Because self defense is a necessity in my book.
Now, his broader point is that they should be allowed to buy anything legal, not just firearms. While yes, I agree that a responsible person would buy necessities of life and not spray tans and fake nails, the actual problem is the generational welfare, and the "Oh no we can't just let 'em starve..." attitude that keeps 'em alive. My wife had a job getting them off welfare, and well, the stories she told about that job...
Other than the last sentence, this was my thought exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
^This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
EBT cards have more then food stamps on them.....you cannot use the "foodstamp" credit on them for anything but food nor can you pull out the foodstamp credits in cash form. Some people get cash deposited on the card from assistance, child support, disability, unemployment, whatever which is tracked separately on the card. This is still cash, can be pulled out in the form of cash from an atm if they want. This is the money in question by some, since the ones getting the cash assistance via welfare programs are imagined to be using it to pay bills or look for work etc........but it is still cash and it is theirs to use as any of us would use cash. I personally have never gotten an ebt card or any assistance beyond unemployment but I have known plenty of people who have said cards, and I have been pissed off plenty of times by how I see these funds used and abused but I don't think there should be regs on how cash is spent. Foodstamps I have no problem being regulated, I can't stand seeing carts full of junk food being bought by these - learn to cook and by some nourishing food for your offspring if not for yourself.
I agree with the people who think it should only be for food, not cigarettes of alcohol or what ever BS. My favorite sticker says "go to work thousands depend on you." Stupid to think that soon it will just be a debit card that they can buy whatever on. I should quit my job have 8 kids, I will have a nicer car, house, guns, and eat better than all of you, all this and I can wake up at noon and sell weed to make extra money!
Food only.... It's kinda in the name!!! This is where the whole welfare state discussion comes in.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
Correct, EBT is simply the method of using funds, not what funds they come from.Quote:
Originally Posted by GunsRBadMMMMKay
I don't care what the "intent" is, if that money is coming from the tax payer's pocket, there should be and NEEDS to be regulated. We currently have these things being used in the ATM's at Pot shops, casinos, strip clubs, and liquor stores for Christ's sake. IMO, if you want to fix the problem, they get their first month's money and they don't get any more money until they provide signed and dated receipts for how they spent last months money. To do it, there are automated systems that can recognize these things (scan & upload systems), and recharge their card if the charges are legit, if some charges are not within the guidelines, they don't get that portion of next month's money.
And no, buying guns, with food stamp money and other direct forms of assistance is NOT legitimate use of tax payers money.
I have a right to the pursuit of happiness too, that doesn't make it someone else's responsibility to pay for it. Rights are things others cannot take away, not things that others are forced to provide for you.
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Originally Posted by XC700116
Where have we heard that before?
They are called "food stamps" for a reason.
Simple fix:
- Get a job
- Save money
- Buy a gun
- Success
Gubmint assistance is not supposed to be a lifestyle.
And my company has the gall to demand I properly fill out and submit receipts for legitimate expenses.
[Rant1]
While we're at it, I also have to periodically pass a drug test for my employer as well as client's (although generally the company pass covers it) and pass client background/credit checks from time to time.
It's like you guys are being obtuse food stamps can just be used for food....that's it you can't buy ciggerets alchahol etc (unless your in NYC then there's shady bodegas that will break the law and sell you that stuff)
ebt cards should be allowed to be used anywhere for anything because it includes unemployment disability etc etc etc
Some use the EBT to buy luxury items (lap dances, steaks, alcohol, cigarettes, etc) and then act as though they don't receive enough from the gov't. Many have tattoos, multiple children, and do not use their time wisely considering their circumstances ...and yes it rubs me the wrong way.
If you want a firearm for SD get a job.
I spent some time in downtown Toledo, OH, across from the food stamp office. Girls were working the parking lot for stamps. So yeah, you can buy just about anything.
It's funny that the one time knee-jerk anti-gun Dems are for guns are when the rest of us have to pay for thefraudbenefits recipients to get them. I support the rights of law-abiding citizens of any economic background to possess firearms, I just don't support their "right" to purchase them on the taxpayer's dime. If a poor working mother needs a firearm to protect herself from scumbags, I'd be happy to work out a private sector way to arm her.
If it's so important and the government is in such a giving mood with our tax dollars, instead of cutting into the government cheese budget, how about providing government guns to the needy?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChadAmberg
Yeah, that'll fly with the Democrat party. [Sarcasm2]
^^^^^ Haha an Obama-gun, right next to the Obama phone.
Oh like that scene in Forrest Gump?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter
Where is the Great Kazoo? His sig line is especially appropriate here.
Public assistance is supposed to be a temporary way to give people a chance to recover their lives on their own. This includes unemployment benefits. It should never be a means for those receiving it to make a comfortable living. Therefore, I am opposed to any form of public assistance being spent on anything other than nutrition, necessary clothing, shelter, or basic transportation(preferably public transit).
^^^^This. Too bad it has become multi generational boondoggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
Couldn't have said it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by TFOGGER
Sounds familiar. Political office was supposed to be temporary and those volunteering their services to the country were not meant to make a comfortable living doing it.
I had to limit my purchases this year... I think I need assistance to buy some .22lr
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