HELP...What is this part I found on my workbench?????

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07-03-2014, 11:00
crashdown

HELP...What is this part I found on my workbench?????

Worked on a bunch of guns over the weekend, and found this part right in the middle of my workspace.
I thought it might go on the recoil spring guide-rod on my Sig 1911-22 since I took it apart and it seemed to fit perfectly, but the exploded diagram doesn't show it.
It seems very nicely machined, so not any type of washer I would think. It had to come off something I worked on, but I am lost.

http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...edownload1.jpg
http://i1227.photobucket.com/albums/...edownload2.jpg
07-03-2014, 11:53
GunsRBadMMMMKay

Guide rod bushing maybe? Does the spring ride on it?
07-03-2014, 12:11
crashdown

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Originally Posted by GunsRBadMMMMKay

Guide rod bushing maybe? Does the spring ride on it?

What I thought it could be, but no such image in any of the exploded diagrams I have seen of the Sig 1911-22.
Maybe somebody has one that can check on theirs and chime in?
07-03-2014, 13:25
Great-Kazoo

How about narrowing down what other guns you had there, since you mentioned A Bunch.
07-03-2014, 13:50
GunsRBadMMMMKay

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Attachment 46713

doesn't that look like it....looking like it goes between the buffer and the spring on the guide rod?
07-03-2014, 13:57
crashdown

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

How about narrowing down what other guns you had there, since you mentioned A Bunch.

Fair enough...
I cleaned or worked on:
Tula SKS
2 AK's, one Arsenal, one Saiga conversion.
A HK USP in .45
2 basic AR-15's
A Glock 17,26 and 19
Nightguard 327
And the last thing I did was field strip and clean the Sig 1911-22

Days prior (I don't think it sat there that long, but just in case) I installed a VLTOR stock adapter and Magpul MOE stock on the Arsenal, mounted up an MI side rail scope mount and put on an IOR red dot, also put on a set on Crimson Trace Lasergrips on the 327 Nightguard.

Really thought it came off the Sig 22, but just ran up to Sportsmans and field stripped one and no luck... might have come out of the bag of goodies that contain the sights, wrenches, and cleaning brush???
07-03-2014, 14:08
crashdown

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Originally Posted by GunsRBadMMMMKay

Attachment 46713

doesn't that look like it....looking like it goes between the buffer and the spring on the guide rod?

It does kinda.... but that pic looks like an aftermarket setup.
None of the pictures I've found of factory internals show anything like what I have, or what is in this picture.
I found where this pic came from, and the top one is the factory rod, but I didn't see any mention of this bushing. And like I just mentioned in my previous post, I just pulled a new one apart at Sportsmans and no metal bushing.
Also... IMHO the Sig is junk, plastic guide rod, cheap springs, pot metal, etc. Can't imagine they have a finely machined and blued piece of quality steel riding on a plastic guide rod... but I'm prepared to be wrong.
The damn thing does fit perfectly on the rod. I shot it again after cleaning it and it seemed to function as before.
07-03-2014, 14:12
BPTactical

It's a dickfer
07-03-2014, 14:15
rbeau30

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

It's a dickfer

[ROFL1] That brings me back.
07-03-2014, 14:55
Omicron

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Originally Posted by BPTactical

It's a dickfer

LOL... wait for it..... wait for it....
07-03-2014, 14:55
Omicron

Looks anodized?
07-03-2014, 14:57
crashdown

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Originally Posted by Omicron

Looks anodized?

HUH.... looks round to me.
07-03-2014, 14:59
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by Omicron

LOL... wait for it..... wait for it....

WHATS A DICKFER ?
07-03-2014, 15:01
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by crashdown

It does kinda.... but that pic looks like an aftermarket setup.
None of the pictures I've found of factory internals show anything like what I have, or what is in this picture.
I found where this pic came from, and the top one is the factory rod, but I didn't see any mention of this bushing. And like I just mentioned in my previous post, I just pulled a new one apart at Sportsmans and no metal bushing.
Also... IMHO the Sig is junk, plastic guide rod, cheap springs, pot metal, etc. Can't imagine they have a finely machined and blued piece of quality steel riding on a plastic guide rod... but I'm prepared to be wrong.
The damn thing does fit perfectly on the rod. I shot it again after cleaning it and it seemed to function as before.

I spent 20 min looking to see what hit the ground , while cleaning an AR. All the parts n pcs where there, BUT SOMETHING hit the ground. ............Cleaning rod tip

If everything is where it belongs shoot it. .
07-03-2014, 15:28
crashdown

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

I spent 20 min looking to see what hit the ground , while cleaning an AR. All the parts n pcs where there, BUT SOMETHING hit the ground. ............Cleaning rod tip

If everything is where it belongs shoot it. .

My OCD will not allow that.
Somebody has gotta have a Sig 22 that can at least verify that it does or doesn't belong to it, maybe the one I took apart today has different guts.
This sucks!
07-03-2014, 15:44
TEAMRICO

My research shows that you have a dime.......thanks for putting the round thing there for reference.

come on, someone had to!!!
07-03-2014, 16:16
ryorourke

Don't own a sig 1911-22, but looking at this picture, I'd say your black ring is the silver ring on the recoil rod.

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdn...911-.22-18.jpg
picture from http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...r-gsg-1911-22/
07-03-2014, 16:26
crashdown

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Originally Posted by ryorourke

Don't own a sig 1911-22, but looking at this picture, I'd say your black ring is the silver ring on the recoil rod.

http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdn...911-.22-18.jpg
picture from http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...r-gsg-1911-22/

Damn... that's two pictures with something similar.
Unfortunately nothing in any of the "official" Sig propaganda or diagrams.
Anybody want to crack open their Sig 22 and confirm? Like I said earlier, I opened one up at Sportsmans today and it was not in there.
07-03-2014, 16:31
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by crashdown

Damn... that's two pictures with something similar.
Unfortunately nothing in any of the "official" Sig propaganda or diagrams.
Anybody want to crack open their Sig 22 and confirm? Like I said earlier, I opened one up at Sportsmans today and it was not in there.

Just because it's not pictured, doesn't mean it doesn't belong. The part may be omitted from the sig pic because it's not offered, individually.
07-03-2014, 16:49
Rabid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKIIBk2YT7M#t=91

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QftWJSniFNk#t=125

With these dissemble videos along with the pictures above it sure looks like it fits on your guide rod.
07-03-2014, 16:54
crashdown

Good find Rabid..... I'm getting pretty sure that is it.
Wonder why it's not on Sigs exploded diagram of parts or why it wasn't in the one I a fooled with today.......
07-03-2014, 17:25
osok-308

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

WHATS A DICKFER ?

For peeing silly. Also I'm going to assume that you can eliminate any glocks from that list.
07-03-2014, 17:31
Rabid

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Originally Posted by crashdown

Wonder why it's not on Sigs exploded diagram of parts or why it wasn't in the one I a fooled with today.......

Maybe what Jim said or it was a part added later for some reason and the parts diagram was not updated.
07-03-2014, 17:32
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by crashdown

Good find Rabid..... I'm getting pretty sure that is it.
Wonder why it's not on Sigs exploded diagram of parts or why it wasn't in the one I a fooled with today.......

See post #19
07-04-2014, 10:51
wctriumph

You got me but it sure is a purty little thing.
07-04-2014, 11:45
crashdown

C'mon.... Anybody got a Sig 1911-22 they can take down and end this?
07-04-2014, 11:52
ray1970

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Originally Posted by crashdown

C'mon.... Anybody got a Sig 1911-22 they can take down and end this?

You have one.

[Coffee]
07-04-2014, 12:04
Gman

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Originally Posted by crashdown

C'mon.... Anybody got a Sig 1911-22 they can take down and end this?

Isn't this what started the issue? [Coffee]

They may have also revised the design at some point.
07-04-2014, 12:45
BPTactical

Parts left off cost nothing
Parts left off cannot fail
[Coffee]
07-04-2014, 12:59
Irving

Is it possible that it is an aftermarket buffer like some people put on their guns? Did you buy yours used?
07-04-2014, 14:30
crashdown

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Originally Posted by Irving

Is it possible that it is an aftermarket buffer like some people put on their guns? Did you buy yours used?

New, but I had it a while before ever messing with it.
07-04-2014, 18:06
rondog

Papa Smurf's cock ring?
07-05-2014, 01:36
KevDen2005

Is that not a dime? Looks like a dime to me, man.
07-05-2014, 02:03
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by rondog

Papa Smurf's cock ring?

You're talking about The Blue Weenie.
07-05-2014, 06:41
ray1970

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Originally Posted by rondog

Papa Smurf's cock ring?

Could be Smurfette's IUD
07-05-2014, 07:02
rootbrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEAMRICO

My research shows that you have a dime.......thanks for putting the round thing there for reference.

come on, someone had to!!!

[emoji106]
07-07-2014, 15:05
ryorourke

Here's one more video. The guy actually pulls that metal washer off the guide rod of the sig 1911-22.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLInbrXmX2s
07-07-2014, 15:57
crashdown

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryorourke

Here's one more video. The guy actually pulls that metal washer off the guide rod of the sig 1911-22.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLInbrXmX2s

Ok.... I'm sold.
Really bothered me that the new one I took apart did not have one, but this video leaves no doubt.
07-07-2014, 16:13
brutal

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdown

It does kinda.... but that pic looks like an aftermarket setup.
None of the pictures I've found of factory internals show anything like what I have, or what is in this picture.
I found where this pic came from, and the top one is the factory rod, but I didn't see any mention of this bushing. And like I just mentioned in my previous post, I just pulled a new one apart at Sportsmans and no metal bushing.
Also... IMHO the Sig is junk, plastic guide rod, cheap springs, pot metal, etc. Can't imagine they have a finely machined and blued piece of quality steel riding on a plastic guide rod... but I'm prepared to be wrong.
The damn thing does fit perfectly on the rod. I shot it again after cleaning it and it seemed to function as before.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdown

My OCD will not allow that.
Somebody has gotta have a Sig 22 that can at least verify that it does or doesn't belong to it, maybe the one I took apart today has different guts.
This sucks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdown

C'mon.... Anybody got a Sig 1911-22 they can take down and end this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdown

Ok.... I'm sold.
Really bothered me that the new one I took apart did not have one, but this video leaves no doubt.

It is, in fact, a little cock ring for your Sig 1911-22 guide rod. (GSG made gun BTW.)

I gots one and can confirm it belongs there. There is also a plastic shim that can be added to help cycling depending on the ammo you run. Mine originally only ran well with mini-mags but now eats everything. The slide has been Cerakoted as well and seems to have helped make it more reliable.

P.S. You can also run it with the damn slide lock screw left out. That way you don't need a stupid Allen wrench to field strip it.
07-07-2014, 16:44
Gman

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashdown

Really bothered me that the new one I took apart did not have one...

Somebody may have disassembled it at the store and lost the part...in a similar way to how you found an extra part.[Coffee]