Hillary Testifies on Benghazi

Admittedly, I have not followed this very closely from day one but it seems to me with her being responsible for this overall situation, her saying that she did not know about the requests for more security is not an excuse that excludes her from responsibility of dead Americans. This happened on her watch, her people could not defend themselves and they realized this. They asked for more security and were ignored by Hillary's staff back in DC. I don't believe for a second that she was unaware of an escalating security threat, but even if she was not aware, she is guilty of running an operation with a deadly dangerous process that resulted in the deaths of Americans.

She basically prevented these Americans from being able to defend themselves properly when the guys in Benghazi knew there was an escalating threat... Now this same failed line of thinking wants to orchestrate some sort of gun confiscation program here in the States as President. Hand in your guns, don't worry, Hillary will protect you!!

Feel free to correct me if I have some things wrong here... That actually might make us better off.

All true as far as I know, but I don't think anything will come of it, but I do hope I'm very very wrong.

My theory is the current admin has the inside track and knows there isn't enough dirt on her. If there was then Crazy Joe would be running, but he bowed out, which is weird.
I think he did it because he knows Hillary will skate and he put Party over personal ambition. I believe he'd be running if there was any indication she was going down.
Again, I hope I'm full of sh*t and totally wrong, but at the moment that's how I see it.

Too many sociopaths in the government for anything good to come out. Mainstream media is censored. Only public outrage can change it, and I don't see that. Come election day, you will again have a choice of two evils...

I wasted 5 mins of my life watching this this morning. Like others have said, nothing good will come from this. It's like a bunch of kids saying "You're a doodoo head" "No...YOU are" "Nuh uhh, you are".

She can't deny that there was negligence here. I guess sucking at your job and failing is not necessarily a criminal offense, but exposing this failure should shed some light on her abilities as an executive leader. There has to be at least a few Americans out there that will now see that.

Now if they find that she lied, tried to cover this up, and failed to secure sensitive documents, then there should be charges and then the run for office is over. Seems to me, the failure to secure sensitive documents is obvious and we are just waiting for the FBI to take action. Now when will that be?

What was Nixon Impeached for again?

"What difference at this point does it make?"

Cliff (Claven) Notes Summary: Hillary lies. A lot. She didn't care about Chris Stevens' life or any of the other people at the site as long as they didn't reveal a potentially illegal operation or mess up the Obama Administration's narrative that they had tamped down on Al Qaeda and there was no issue with Muslim extremism.

Hillary's side: Anyone who thinks I did anything wrong is part of the vast right-wing conspiracy and trying to deny me my rightful place as the next American dictator. I did everything right, everything that went wrong was the fault of George Bush and/or the Republicans in the House.

Monica Lewinsky could have done a better job, just ask Bill!

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Originally Posted by Gman

"What difference at this point does it make?"

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Came to this thread to post this.



Political theater

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Originally Posted by KAPA

Admittedly, I have not followed this very closely from day one but it seems to me with her being responsible for this overall situation, her saying that she did not know about the requests for more security is not an excuse that excludes her from responsibility of dead Americans. This happened on her watch, her people could not defend themselves and they realized this. They asked for more security and were ignored by Hillary's staff back in DC. I don't believe for a second that she was unaware of an escalating security threat, but even if she was not aware, she is guilty of running an operation with a deadly dangerous process that resulted in the deaths of Americans.

She basically prevented these Americans from being able to defend themselves properly when the guys in Benghazi knew there was an escalating threat... Now this same failed line of thinking wants to orchestrate some sort of gun confiscation program here in the States as President. Hand in your guns, don't worry, Hillary will protect you!!

Feel free to correct me if I have some things wrong here... That actually might make us better off.

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This may be like comparing apples and oranges, but by the logic you use here (and I don't disagree one bit), the heads of the FAA's security pre-9/11 should be just as culpable as Hillary. They ignored the warnings from the Red Teams that there were vulnerabilities in security that would allow an attack to take place, and chose to ignore. Just like Hillary ignored the warnings from those on the ground, in the know, that stated security was a big issue. My hope is that something comes out of this that ends her presidential run, but in reality, I'm willing to bet nothing severe will come down on her. I really hope Michael Bay's new Benghazi movie coming out next year plays to the lack of leadership on her part, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Originally Posted by MarkCO

What was Nixon Impeached for again?

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No one died in Watergate... [Mad] Hope your blood pressure isn't as high as mine on that comparison.

Noticed I haven't seen anyone dusting off their "No one died when Clinton lied," bumper stickers.

Hillary Clinton is a stain on America.

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Originally Posted by Irving

HillaryThe Clintons isare a stain on America.

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FTFY. [Beer]

No matter what happens, what she says or doesn't say. The American public (in general) doesn't have the attention span, or care enough about this country to keep her out of office.
The left has done a great job (thank you 4th estate) of making the R's look like a vindictive bunch who are not after the truth, Only Hillary.

YET their WAR ON WOMEN, The Republicans HATE HOMOSEXUALS mantra , coming from a group who cuddles up to Islam, goes over their voting bases head. DAILY.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

This may be like comparing apples and oranges, but by the logic you use here (and I don't disagree one bit), the heads of the FAA's security pre-9/11 should be just as culpable as Hillary. They ignored the warnings from the Red Teams that there were vulnerabilities in security that would allow an attack to take place, and chose to ignore. Just like Hillary ignored the warnings from those on the ground, in the know, that stated security was a big issue. My hope is that something comes out of this that ends her presidential run, but in reality, I'm willing to bet nothing severe will come down on her. I really hope Michael Bay's new Benghazi movie coming out next year plays to the lack of leadership on her part, but I'm not holding my breath.

No one died in Watergate... [Mad] Hope your blood pressure isn't as high as mine on that comparison.

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I can see the argument but I don't recall the security in Portland Maine calling the FAA and telling them "stop flying planes because some bad guys just flew out of here and are coming your way" and then the FAA ignoring the warning. I think lax immigration/visitation policies were a far larger contributor to 9/11 than anything airport security related but that is another topic.

The thing that gets me is Hillary or her staff at minimum ignored the calls from Benghazi saying that bad things are about to happen. Who got that call and why didn't they send it up the ladder? Or did they send it up the ladder and she told them "its not in the budget to send any more help, figure it out on your own".

I keep coming back to her gun control desires. She is trying to convince the public that the government will take care of you and you don't need guns, yet she is a glaring example of why YOU are responsible for YOUR own protection when the shit hits the fan.

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

I really hope Michael Bay's new Benghazi movie coming out next year plays to the lack of leadership on her part, but I'm not holding my breath.

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I'm expecting the same historical accuracy as his Pearl Harbor movie. The only thing he got right is that there was a place named Pearl Harbor in Hawaii. So...there's a place called Benghazi...blah, blah, blah.

http://youtu.be/p9jS4gppIFs

I heard a snippet, she blamed that video because she's a POS (D)....but I'm being redundant.

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Originally Posted by KAPA

I can see the argument but I don't recall the security in Portland Maine calling the FAA and telling them "stop flying planes because some bad guys just flew out of here and are coming your way" and then the FAA ignoring the warning. I think lax immigration/visitation policies were a far larger contributor to 9/11 than anything airport security related but that is another topic.

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Without going off topic into that, watch "Please Remove Your Shoes" documentary, it shows the FAA higher ups and their vast incompetence which was a major contributing factor (but not the sole factor) in 9/11. And I'm in no way disagreeing with you on the immigration/visitation policies being another major contributor. [Beer]

The real question is what were we doing in Benghazi in the first place? Setting up a consulate in a country that was in utter chaos seems a bit unsafe. One theory was that there were some black ops involving weapons going to Syria. One wonders....

It would be best for all if she was publicly hung on the whitehouse lawn.

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Originally Posted by sniper7

It would be best for all if she was publicly hung on the whitehouse lawn.

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Rumor has it she is hung. Not something i or a lot of people would care to see.

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Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo

Rumor has it she is hung. Not something i or a lot of people would care to see.

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Her and the Wookie.
No wonder they don't get along, two bulls in the same corral and all...

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Originally Posted by speedysst

The real question is what were we doing in Benghazi in the first place? Setting up a consulate in a country that was in utter chaos seems a bit unsafe. One theory was that there were some black ops involving weapons going to Syria. One wonders....

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This does seem to be the thing that everyone is missing and no one is talking about for some reason.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/12.../?intcmp=hpbt1

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As the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was unfolding, a high-ranking Pentagon official urgently messaged Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s top deputies to offer military help, according to an email obtained by Judicial Watch.

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“I just tried you on the phone but you were all in with S [apparent reference to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton],” reads the email, from Panetta’s chief of staff Jeremy Bash. “After consulting with General Dempsey, General Ham and the Joint Staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak.”

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The email was sent out at 7:19 p.m. ET on Sept. 11, 2012, in the early stages of the eight-hour siege that also claimed the lives of Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith and two former Navy SEALs, Ty Woods and Glen Doherty, private CIA contractors who raced to the aid of embattled State Department workers.

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I figured something like this would eventually come out. The early leaks seemed to me to come from someone with access to the NSC or NMCC and indicated that at least one person was severely pissed we left guys on the roof hung out to dry for 8 hours while the engagement was being monitored by UAV footage.

There were some ops to destroy critical weaponry. Libya has oil, that explains everything.