Massachusetts goes full retard

http://controversialtimes.com/politi...utm_source=LRD

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The Massachusetts assault weapons ban mirrors the federal ban Congress allowed to expire in 2004. It prohibits the sale of specific weapons like the Colt AR-15 and AK-47 and explicitly bans “copies or duplicates” of those weapons. But gun manufacturers have taken it upon themselves to define what a “copy” or “duplicate” weapon is. They market “state compliant” copycat versions of their assault weapons to Massachusetts buyers. They sell guns without a flash suppressor or folding or telescoping stock, for example, small tweaks that do nothing to limit the lethalness of the weapon.

Read more: http://controversialtimes.com/politi...#ixzz4F3c9uHyu

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Short version: What was legal to sell on Tuesday is banned today. Fucktards!

Scary part is, it only took an un-elected AG to make it happen.
We'll see if it sticks.

Questions about her authority to do this:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ssault-weapons

Talk about a broad decision....

The directive specifically outlines two tests to determine what constitutes a “copy” or “duplicate” of a prohibited weapon. If a gun’s operating system is essentially the same as that of a banned weapon, or if the gun has components that are interchangeable with those of a banned weapon, it’s a “copy” or “duplicate,” and it is illegal. Assault weapons prohibited under our laws cannot be altered in any way to make their sale or possession legal in Massachusetts.

That could easily apply to almost every firearm in existence.

When everything is against the law, nothing is against the law.

BTW, you could power NYC with the founding fathers turning over in their grave.[Rant2]

Here's another look at it: http://www.independentsentinel.com/t...ns-ar-15s-aks/

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Healey claims that: In the face of utter inaction by Congress, states have a duty to enact and enforce laws that protect people from gun violence. If Washington won’t use its power to get these guns off our streets, we will. Not only do we have the legal authority to do so, we have a moral obligation to do so.

She has a moral obligation to uphold the Constitution and she has no legal right to pass laws which is what she is doing.

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Glad I don't live in MA!! Wish S&W and any other firearm/related company there would move out and take their employees with them (yeah pie-in-the-sky wishing but it'd be nice).

That AG should be recalled.

If Hillary takes away our guns, will the Muslims kill all the gays? Sometimes I think the Russians have it right. The way I was raised with the Cold War mentality, the Russians were the bad guys. Now it is obvious that the biggest threat exists within this nation. The Massachusetts AG is Maura Healey is a lesbian according to wikipedia. I would not use my semi automatic weapon to defend her if Muslims were going to kill her for being homosexual. People like her are the ENEMY! As much a threat to the American way of life as ISIS. I'm sure she has an armed state trooper guarding her in her office. Not to mention her gay partner is a judge. The Massachusetts constituents need to educate themselves before they let people like Maura Healey in power. OP is right "Full Retard"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Healey

I bet some of her dildos have some "assault rifle" type of features. Hopefully they will be banned under the new "law".

Funny to hear lesbians speak of "moral obligation..." [facepalm]

High capacity battery clips?
Adjustable length?
Splash hider?

"Splash hider" BAAAHHHH [ROFL1][mop]

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Originally Posted by ray1970

I bet some of her dildos have some "assault rifle" type of features. Hopefully they will be banned under the new "law".

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Cigars EEWWWWW

1/4-28x1" socket head cap screw is now an illegal feature in Massachusetts.

Just to correct the title, Massachusetts went full retard a long time ago. You can mark their final full immersion into retardation back to electing Fauxcahontas as a senator, further back to electing Dotaxus as governor, or even further back to Kill-her Kennedy. There is no small irony in the birthplace of the American Revolution becoming the birthplace of Stalinist Repression in America.

They make grip frames for ar15 to have 1911 grips
They just banned the 1911 also

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

If Hillary takes away our guns, will the Muslims kill all the gays? Sometimes I think the Russians have it right. The way I was raised with the Cold War mentality, the Russians were the bad guys. Now it is obvious that the biggest threat exists within this nation. The Massachusetts AG is Maura Healey is a lesbian according to wikipedia. I would not use my semi automatic weapon to defend her if Muslims were going to kill her for being homosexual. People like her are the ENEMY! As much a threat to the American way of life as ISIS. I'm sure she has an armed state trooper guarding her in her office. Not to mention her gay partner is a judge. The Massachusetts constituents need to educate themselves before they let people like Maura Healey in power. OP is right "Full Retard"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Healey

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communists like her already own the indoctrination centers (public schools) and are brainwashing the next generations to believe that global communism, altenative lifestyles, and gun control is what the USA is all about.

Attachment 66320

In other news, Mossberg is moving its operations out of Corrupticutt...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/193177-s...f-connecticut/

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Originally Posted by TFOGGER

In other news, Mossberg is moving its operations out of Corrupticutt...

http://www.weaselzippers.us/193177-s...f-connecticut/

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Texas gets another one.

I still can't believe that S&W hasn't left Springfield, MA. I wonder if this move by the AG is enough of an incentive.

S&W has been in that bed for quite some time...it's like no one remembers the Clinton era. They probably think they could survive on .gov contracts like they have in the past, doubt they will relocate.

Rather extensive list of gun control measures here:

http://www.maurahealey.com/issues/Gun-Violence

MA manufacturers and retailers abided by the law. The AG said they weren't. Were is the proof?

This mirrors the CO mag restriction where reporters are claiming retailers are flagrantly violating the law but can't sight one instance where the law was broken.

Sucks all around.

I think the 1994 assault weapons ban was sighted in this cluster fawk. That was the best the Dems could pass without totally committing political suicide.

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Originally Posted by davsel

Scary part is, it only took an un-elected AG to make it happen.
We'll see if it sticks.

Questions about her authority to do this:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ssault-weapons

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With zero ability to make law....

I really hate when people in these positions don't understand upholding law, enforcing law, or making law.

There is only one correct response to unjust exercise of power. Immediate and potentially radical civil disobedience.

But, it's Masshole, so probably they'll just knuckle under.

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Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy

If Hillary takes away our guns, will the Muslims kill all the gays? Sometimes I think the Russians have it right. The way I was raised with the Cold War mentality, the Russians were the bad guys. Now it is obvious that the biggest threat exists within this nation. The Massachusetts AG is Maura Healey is a lesbian according to wikipedia. I would not use my semi automatic weapon to defend her if Muslims were going to kill her for being homosexual. People like her are the ENEMY! As much a threat to the American way of life as ISIS. I'm sure she has an armed state trooper guarding her in her office. Not to mention her gay partner is a judge. The Massachusetts constituents need to educate themselves before they let people like Maura Healey in power. OP is right "Full Retard"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Healey

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I am firmly against the homosexual agenda and the way they've been cramming it down our throats via the mass media but I don't have a problem with her being a lesbian or any other homosexual for doing what they do in the privacy of their own homes. What I have a problem with is her being a Stalinist tyrant who willingly violates the Constitution and her oath of office in furtherance of an unAmerican agenda. You don't solve one anti-American problem by welcoming another one like the Islamists and their idea of Sharia law. The Massholes elected her, they can live with the consequences.

No logic behind all this, the math doesn't support the decision:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...t-weapons.html

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Originally Posted by bczandm

No logic behind all this, the math doesn't support the decision:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...t-weapons.html

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Since when do facts have anything to do with a Liberal making decisions. This article us not even a little bit surprising.

What is the breaking point for people? Really, What is it? What if the same thing happened here? What would "we" do about it?

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Originally Posted by bczandm

No logic behind all this, the math doesn't support the decision:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...t-weapons.html

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The debate is the latest example of the long-running argument between Second Amendment purists and gun control advocates about whether new firearms laws make people safer. Indeed, the fact that Massachusetts has so few murders committed using assault weapons could be seen as evidence that the original ban was successful.

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I don't know what a "Second Amendment purist" is, but it sounds mildly derogatory and I am pretty sure I like being one.

One of the guys I met over on the Smith-Wesson forum lives there. He said tomorrow there's supposed to be a large anti-AG rally and was planning on going. I wished him luck, hope that there's a huge turnout and told him every now and then recalls can be effective.

Truly sad state of affairs.

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Originally Posted by sako55

What is the breaking point for people? Really, What is it? What if the same thing happened here? What would "we" do about it?

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What the people of Pueblo did was organize, gather signatures and money and successfully had a recall election. Angela Giron was given the boot! Colorado Springs did the same thing with John Morse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Giron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M...US_politician)

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Originally Posted by sako55

What is the breaking point for people? Really, What is it? What if the same thing happened here? What would "we" do about it?

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Don't conform. Bushmasterboy already pointed out a bunch of ways to nonviolently uphold your rights. But I also say don't conform. We know that Constitutional Case Law supports your right to own AR 15 style rifles among others. And we know that laws are passed by a specific body of people and not one person. I would also say we should express our rights through our representatives to challenge things like that.

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Originally Posted by KevDen2005

Don't conform. Bushmasterboy already pointed out a bunch of ways to nonviolently uphold your rights. But I also say don't conform. We know that Constitutional Case Law supports your right to own AR 15 style rifles among others. And we know that laws are passed by a specific body of people and not one person. I would also say we should express our rights through our representatives to challenge things like that.

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All true, but then you get appellate court decisions like Friedman vs Highland Park or the CT/NY upheld bans.

Friedman v Highland Park:

" If a ban on semiautomatic guns and large-capacity magazines reduces the perceived risk from a mass shooting, and makes the public feel safer as a result, that's a substantial benefit. Cf. Frank v. Walker, 768 F.3d 744, 751 (7th Cir.2014)."

CT/NY bans upheld:

"Inthe absence of clearer guidance from the Supreme Court or stronger evidence inthe record, we follow the approach taken by the District Courts and by the D.C.Circuit in Heller II and assume for the sake of argument that these“commonly used” weapons and magazines are also “typically possessed by law‐abiding citizens for lawful purposes. In short,we proceed on the assumption that these laws ban weapons protected by theSecond Amendment."

Ban upheld anyway.