https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...opens-fire-new
Hadn't heard anything else about this. Details still emerging but sounds like video if the event was broadcast live on social media.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...opens-fire-new
Hadn't heard anything else about this. Details still emerging but sounds like video if the event was broadcast live on social media.
Another "look at me, look at me!" psycho.
Deranged fuck, some info from a local forum there. Includes the gopro video of the shooting... I'd lead towards most people not watching it. There was one near hero at least that charged him and knocked the rifle down for a few moments, but paid for it and sadly didn't look like many were able to take that moment and get out.
Most maddening thing is after all the shooting and screaming there's still people milling around at the edges of the property not getting away.
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/brento...m-gopro.54323/
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/na...d-cf1b2576a57a
One of the pictures of the kiwi cops. Not only does the female officer show nice trigger discipline , she has some nice arms .
There were a lot of innocent people killed so who cares about some female's trigger discipline and arms?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
From the info posted on the first link, there are some pretty glaring inconsistencies in his beliefs; although I suppose that's not surprising.
It's a shame that he's saying that Candace Owens has radicalized him. I've only really heard her on a long podcast, but I'm pretty sure that none of what she says has anything to do with what his manifesto is about, especially through the lens that he looks at the world. This is a sad event.
Wow. That’s all sorts of fucked up. Rip to the victims. I don’t even know why else to say.
Standby to see this used for an example of why the public does not need AR's, and to include more protections against "islamaphobia."
He has some quote as saying he wants the left to be triggered into trying to crack down on everything right wing prompting/provoking a civil war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
It is truly a sad event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irving
I have my own "tin foil hat" suspicions about this and the early/public linking to Candace Owens...
It will be. 100% guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter45
There will be precisely .29 seconds of "RIP" followed by the rest of the time being "evil AR-15's must be bannified, they too scary"...
Despite how truly sad this situation is, the libs will never let something like this go to waste... Political capitalization will ensue.
Ties into my "tin foil suspicions" mentioned earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitz19d
I do , it was an observation. When you consider the hoops kiwi's have to jump through for a gun. Once again laws did nothing to stop someone bent upon mass murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidicarus13
Psycho left a 94 page manifest. 94 pages. Clearly nuts.
Yeah, that is where he details his grevences in which many are conflicting. His manifesto states that he believes his actions will ignite a civil war in the US over the 2nd Amendment leading to the “Balkanization” of the country and preserving white culture. Hes also seems to be upset at the US over their siding with muslims and bombing of whites in Kosovo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erni
Great, so not only do we need to watch what happens in the US, now we’ve got to worry about what physcopaths do in Foreign countries. Fuck!Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
in his manifesto he also stated that he could have used any means of attack that would have created as many deaths, a truck bomb, a plane.. going on to list many other avenues of attack including a ball peen hammer but he chose a firearm because he knew it would cause the left in the US to demand gun control and push the country in to civil war.
manifesto:
https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...d-Shooter.html
”Finally, to create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide within the United states.This conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
This balkanization of the US will not only result in the racial separation of the people within the United States ensuring the future of the White race on the North American continent, but also ensuring the death of the “melting pot” pipe dream.”
”Why did you choose to use firearms?
I could have chosen any weapons or means.A TATP filled rental van. Household flour, a method of dispersion and an ignition source.A ballpeen hammer and a wooden shield.Gas,fire,vehicular attacks,plane attacks, any means were available. I had the will and I had the resources.
I chose firearms for the affect it would have on social discourse, the extra media coverage they would provide and the affect it could have on the politics of United states and thereby the political situation of the world.
The US is torn into many factions by its second amendment, along state, social, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.
With enough pressure the left wing within the United states will seek to abolish the second amendment, and the right wing within the US will see this as an attack on their very freedom and liberty.
This attempted abolishment of rights by the left will result in a dramatic polarization of the people in the United States and eventually a fracturing of the US along cultural and racial lines.”
Psycho's and true believers have been doing this for centuries around the world. IMO it's not our problem (directly) or will terrorist / ideology attacks ever stop.Quote:
Originally Posted by KS63
While here in the U.S. The gun grabbers are more interested in eradicating the gun, instead of looking at what causes people to go off the rails.
At the same time Ignoring the Who, What, When , Where and Why this happens.
Parkland and the education system, is a microcosm of leftist turning an eye to trouble, waiting for something to happen.
Then DEMAND Action. Hand wringing, media colluding to add one more layer or restriction on a Constitutional Right.
Disgusting.
Equally disgusting (and yes I say equally because it's giving the nutter what he wants to encourage copycats) is American/global media doing everything they can to link this to their political enemies in the US. Everything from gun control to Trump and white supremacy. "White supremacy" meaning peopled who didn't vote for Clinton, not actual white supremacists.
And here we have (again) confirmation that the media's obsession with disarming the American people messages that the best way to gain notoriety and stay in the news is to use a black rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
If anything it seems like this attack would undermine the arguments for gun control in the US. After all, NZ has much stricter gun laws than the US, and he was still able to do this. So it seems all this attack (and the one in Norway) demonstrates is that if someone is determined to attack innocents with a gun they're going to find a way to do it, laws be damned.
And yes, I understand that's not the way the media or the gun control advocates will spin it but that is the way that a lot of people "in the middle" (i.e. not committed strongly to either side of the gun debate) are likely to see it.
This is already saying that NZ has relaxed laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinjmpr
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/15/asia/...ntl/index.html
Aussie Senators response:
https://www.news.com.au/national/que...5d75432ac76f2e
Hammer, meet nail.
New Zealand only has relaxed laws in comparison to the totalitarian crackdown CNN would like. They are right in that NZ doesn't require registration of 96% of civilian firearms. What they fail to mention is that those 96% are single shot hunting rifles. NZ has very stringent requirements on anything semi-automatic -- at least, they claimed to when I was there in 2016 -- and they're not keen on civilian ownership of handguns. One thing NZ has that I'd like to see copied in the US is that suppressors are viewed as safety/hygiene items (preserve your hearing and that of others in the outdoors) so are available over the counter without permit or registration (or so I understand).Quote:
Originally Posted by izzy
This was a horrific atrocity, just as any school/church/synagogue etc incident stateside is.
An observation-
When your people in your "ideology" excel in running amok on a worldwide basis doing terrorist shit, don't be surprised when terrorist shit comes back to bite you in the ass.
These creatures just gets crazier every time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
When someone on a suicide mission is willing to sacrifice their life in the killing of others, no amount of laws will stop them.
This argument has been used by many to categorize 9/11 as a justifiable response to American foreign policy, and that's just as shitty as this is. These 49 people are not responsible for terrorist acts, nor should they have answer for crimes of others just because they may share a religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BPTactical
While i agree with you. Unfortunately the anti-gun movement sees all gun owners as responsible for every shooting. I, you , we, had Zero to do with any shooting, one on one, or mass, ever. YET we as gun owners pay the price for the deeds of the few.Quote:
Originally Posted by waffles
I don't know if anyone else heard this, but I heard on the radio (850 KOA), and maybe saw on foxnews.com that the "authorities" were trying to erase this video from the internet, and were interested in whom was seeking out the video "for like mindedness." (if that is a word.) That scares me more than anything.
-John
They using precogs ?Quote:
Originally Posted by iego
I don't disagree, and it sucks, just as it sucks for every other group that gets shit on for the actions of a few. Doesn't help us to do it to others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
Apparently. It's either liberal media bias, or more scary, true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Great-Kazoo
-John
I'd say D: all the aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by iego
If America and the World is so outraged about the New Zealand attack, where's the outrage for all the constant attacks on Christians from muslims?
40 Christians killed in attacks in Nigeria
http://www.bpnews.net/52500/40-chris...mJ9gFb7KhSw5n0
I'd imagine it'd be much the same reason we ignore or say that's a shame to any number of horrific goings on in Africa or parts of Asia from the Rwandan genocide, Somalia after we faced substantial resistance, human rights abuses in the former Burma, and god knows how many other examples. If it makes you feel better the world seemed fairly outraged at the massacre in the church in Texas, and at the Vegas shooting as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter45
Speaking of the vegas shooting. What ever happened with that investigation. Besides the feds telling us they were at a dead end with leads? IMO that is one of the most suspicious "red flag" shootings. Hell even the "much lauded" security guard who made the rounds on talk tv, but didn't have time for a FBI interview has also disappeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by waffles
At least no one is arguing the politics of this shooting or being racist to further divide the country just like he wanted!
Right guys?!
Right?
Nope. I think we are all in agreement that mass murders happen.
I haven't heard. Did they get the guy?
-John
I kept meaning to ask this, and I honestly don't know. Is he dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by iego
Last I heard he is dead.
-John
They've been pushing hard to remove the manifesto too. Every link I try ends up being dead by the time I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by iego
The guy is trolling the world. He claims he's a white supremacists, but then says he was inspired by a black conservative woman? He says he's a facist, but then later he's an environmentalist. He mentions Trump a single time in 73 pages and the media runs "Trump supporter" in all the headlines. He also said he was inspired by video games. And when he was brought into court he's flashing the upside-down 'ok' sign with his fingers which somehow the media thinks is some sort of white supremacists hand signal. But anyone who's not a dumbass knows it's just a kids game to punch each other. He's literally hitting on every single media trigger for these mass murders.