9-12-19 Democrat Debate

Much talk about "gun control" tonight. I see nobody asking follow-ups about the terrible gun violence in the D controlled communities that they're complaining about. They can't even blame the Republican controlled Senate for the messes they've created.

Beto is coming for your AR-15s. He went to a gun show in Arkansas and spoke to people buying and selling AR-15s and found some common ground (must have found a Fudd, because AR-15 buyers and sellers don't have an interest in having the guns taken away).

Hopefully they'll keep up the extremism.

ETA: Democratic debate: Fiery exchanges over costs of health care

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The debate shifted to gun violence in a state shaken by a mass shooting last month that left 22 people dead and two dozen more wounded.In an emotional moment, O'Rourke said that there weren't enough ambulances at times to take all the wounded to the hospital.

"Hell yes, we're gonna take your AR-15, your AK-47," he said, as the crowd cheered.

Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar noted that all the candidates on stage favor a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. She favors a voluntary buy-back program on assault weapons, however.

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Originally Posted by Gman

Much talk about "gun control" tonight. I see nobody asking follow-ups about the terrible gun violence in the D controlled communities that they're complaining about. They can't even blame the Republican controlled Senate for the messes they've created.

Beto is coming for your AR-15s. He went to a gun show in Arkansas and spoke to people buying and selling AR-15s and found some common ground (must have found a Fudd, because AR-15 buyers and sellers don't have an interest in having the guns taken away).

Hopefully they'll keep up the extremism.

ETA: Democratic debate: Fiery exchanges over costs of health care

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Voluntary ?


Step up and volunteer to take em.

Beto was loud and proud about forced "buy backs" on AR's and AK's.

No way the republic survives being "ruled" by one of these pyschos.

I don't care what Beto thinks he wants to do.
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Doesn't sound like a death threat to me. Sounds like a warning not to try to burglarize/rob him or his home under the guise of safety.

And just who is this "We" you speak of Bobby?

Go home, get your shine box.

Eh, what a presidential candidate promises and what they actually accomplish is as accurate as seeing New York by taking a picture in front of the statute of liberty in Las Vegas. They are all pandering for headlines in their own way.

The most concerning, to me, is Yang doing "raffles" for "universal income" e.g. taking the YouTube strategy and trying to do "giveaways" of money to pander for "views" and especially headlines. Our process is already screwed up, but taking it in that direction will take our country completely dark-mode if it ever begins to appear successful... essentially he's saying "elect me" on the sole premise of he promises to directly give you money if you do.

That's really what is going on though, each has a strategy to try to grab click-bait headlines. Beto's is just the least successful (and dumbest) take of the lot.

ETA: E.g. even if Ol' Beetle got elected, the necessary legislation wouldn't ever cross his desk and he'd distance himself from his election rhetoric in the interest of a second term.

"If you elect me class president, I promise free ice cream every day."

If you want to reduce gun violence, taking the direction that you will forcefully take people's guns is going to produce more gun violence.

I watched almost three minutes of the debate while Biden was babbling incoherently. Good golly, this guy has two feet and half a leg in the grave--worse than Bob Dole when he ran for president. His mind has clearly left his body. The only reason Biden tops the Democrat polls is because the other candidates are such pathetic panderers and their positions are absolutely nuts. Hell, they all make Donald Trump look good which is really unbelievable.

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I watched almost three minutes of the debate while Biden was babbling incoherently. Good golly, this guy has two feet and half a leg in the grave--worse than Bob Dole when he ran for president. His mind has clearly left his body. The only reason Biden tops the Democrat polls is because the other candidates are such pathetic panderers and their positions are absolutely nuts. Hell, they all make Donald Trump look good which is really unbelievable.

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Biden is 'keeping it fresh'. He was talking about "record players" last night. If Biden is the candidate, the debates should be interesting.

Every D is going to come after guns. God help us all if one of them wins. Not just the gun issue, but everything these candidates stands for. Their ideas are a disaster. All of them. Biden and Sanders are simply mentally challenged.

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Biden is 'keeping it fresh'. He was talking about "record players" last night. If Biden is the candidate, the debates should be interesting.

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"Social workers help parents deal with how to raise their children. It?s not that they don?t want to help, they don?t know what to play the radio, make sure the television ? excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the ? make sure that kids hear words, a kid coming from a very poor school ? a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there."

Dafuq?

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"Social workers help parents deal with how to raise their children. It?s not that they don?t want to help, they don?t know what to play the radio, make sure the television ? excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night, the ? make sure that kids hear words, a kid coming from a very poor school ? a very poor background will hear 4 million words fewer spoken by the time we get there."

Dafuq?

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He said he had a headache and asked for an aspirin. The person handing it to him said. Take a 1/4 every 15 minutes till you get off.

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He said he had a headache and asked for an aspirin. The person handing it to him said. Take a 1/4 every 15 minutes till you get off.

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I heard it was a Viagra so he could lean against the back of the podium !!!!

There is still hope left, that even the left has not fully gone socialist with sleepy Joe leading the pack.

And Francis just fired a warning shot that he wants to start the next civil war.

Jump to 11:40, where Beto said a year ago that we could keep our AR-15s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz-1fevQq40

...then El Paso and Midland/Odessa happened and he felt the need to cater to the radical left.

I'll just leave this here.

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Or

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8456#more-8456

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I'll just leave this here.

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Hmmm... link still works for me so idk. Maybe now?

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Both links are now working. [Bang] Thanks!

Turned on the TV Sunday and George Steponallofus was on with Ted Cruz to discuss the debate. Ted made a fantastic point. Where were the Democrat candidates talking about jobs? The economy? Aren't they the party of the 'working man'?

Apparently Trump has taken that issue away from them. Record low unemployment. Highest % of employment for African-Americans and Latinos.

Instead the Democrats want to take your guns, take away your health insurance, and increase your taxes.
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What worries me more about loser candidates talking about taking away our guns are the more probable candidates NOT talking about that but planning to do it via executive order as soon as they get elected.

It seems to me that the younger democrat candidates are all graduates from the communist infiltration and dumbing down of the educational system. They are dumber than a bag of hammers.

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It seems to me that the younger democrat candidates are all graduates from the communist infiltration and dumbing down of the educational system. They are dumber than a bag of hammers.

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Hence the term "useful idiot".

So...what's Bernie's excuse?

ETA: Left leaning MSN was running a poll this morning;
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I heard about 8 minutes of that debate while driving. I found myself agreeing with Biden (he was asking how the others intended to pay for their plans). Along with his comments that they have to follow the Constitution...crazy as it sounds, he sounds like the most reasonable of the bunch. Don't get me wrong, they're all still two scoops short of a sundae, but...

I thought Yang was probably the least radical of the bunch. Buy, yeah...when you're so far out there you make Biden sound reasonable you have issues with your thought processes.

When the guy that 'isn't all there' is leading the pack, something is really wrong.

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I thought Yang was probably the least radical of the bunch.

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In fairness, I know one of my friends is at least somewhat interested in Yang, and I didn't actually hear him speak, so I can't say whether he sounded nuts or not. I do know he's talked about space mirrors to combat global warming, so there's that >.>

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I just got an email from PSA on these...

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In fairness, I know one of my friends is at least somewhat interested in Yang, and I didn't actually hear him speak, so I can't say whether he sounded nuts or not. I do know he's talked about space mirrors to combat global warming, so there's that >.>

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He's been on Rogan twice a you can listen to him talk at length for a few hours.

I wonder if Beto realizes that his best case scenario is people lining up to turn in factory lowers and keeping the rest of the components.

Fox News: Trump warns 'Dummy Beto' making gun deal 'much harder' with confiscation rhetoric

That was the point. Kill any deal do they can use it in the campaign against evil trump.

Since Beto pulled the mask off the party line of "we're not coming to take your guns", and none of the candidates spoke against it, they're not going to get much traction with this being "Trump's fault".

Yes the will. Dems called for new common sense gun laws, and trump and the repub Senate blocked it. Guaranteed they will show kids hiding or ducking at school and say the repubs and trump did nothing to protect your kids. We (the dems) have proposed "common sense" new laws, vote for us.

The dems are good at playing the emotional cards and demonizing guns

That's nothing new. There will always be the lefties that think the Dems have the answers no matter how stupid, useless, or damaging they are. Not a single thing that they've proposed as "common sense" would have done anything to stop any of the shootings to date.

Those that don't toe the party line are seeing something they really don't like, or trust. These are also the people that tip elections one way or the other.