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Fuck that.
I'd put up a just as hastily made sign right next to it that says,
"Terrorist take showers...Are you a terrorist?"
Or even better yet, my sign would have an arrow pointing to the first sign and say, "Terrorist make sweeping generalizations attached to vague threats...Are you a terrorist?"
more knee jerk reactions. the .mil guys are already supposed to turn in their weapons if they are living on base and have to go through paperwork etc. to get them out just to go shoot.
mind boggling bullshit.
(read sarcasim now) Will this not make things more safe??? Shouldn't they have an inventory sheet of what to take from you? [Bang]
Someone needs to take a Sharpie and just write "Yes" on the bottom of that flyer.
This the the shit that stopped me from living on bases when I was active duty... My mouth would get me in trouble if I was stationed there.
Straight up Jim Crow BS for gun owners.
Need to make a sign that says
"Have you registered your Qu'ran?
Terrorists don't register their Qu'rans...are you a terrorist?"
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Originally Posted by Zundfolge
LOL... or "Major Hassad says: Be a true American! Register your weapons!"
Most of us here have already been labeled as "Right wing extremists" just for participating on this site. I have been called worse things by my wife here lately.
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Originally Posted by arz
Doubt it...
If you live on base, yes you do have to register your firearms. Simple as that. They built the damn house and you dont pay rent. If you dont like the rules of being in the military, get out.
If you dont live on base, you dont have to register squat.
Not to mention that anyone can come along and hang up a sign. No evidence that it was officially from the base or whatever.
It seems like a slap in the face to our service men and women to physically take responsibility for defending our nation's freedom, sometimes sacrificing their own lives, only to not be trusted with their own private firearms on base.
I don't know if they are allowed to keep their weapons in their homes on base or if they must be registered and kept elsewhere. Either way, I think our soldiers deserve more trust than that.
Just my two cents.
Wow. By the wife? That doesn't sound good.Quote:
Originally Posted by two shoes
And as best I can tell, nearly all gun owners, former military members, and anone registered as a Republican or Libertarian is classified as an Right Wing Extremist. Easy to do, when the people doing all that classifying are liberals and socialists. Because in socialist circles, they're the moderate centrists and people like us who own guns when we should know that those things are dangerous are the whackos. How dare we think that our Second Amendment rights are as important as their First Amendment rights? For that Matter, their First Amendment rights are more important than ours, apparently we should know enough to shut up so they can educate everyone on how things should be. Plus, it'll be a lot easier for them to make sure we know our rightful places when we we're unarmed.
Terrorists and enemies of this country don't figure into their planning, since they can't control them. So they just kowtow and whine to them. They figure they can get us with laws.
And if you look at it, it's a self-perpetuating system. Politicians are mostly former Judges and Lawyers. Politicians make the laws. Judges interpret and apply the laws. Prosecutors (who are lawyers) and lawyers use the laws for whatever they're doing at the time. Those prosectors and lawyers become the judges, and the politicians....It's a closed loop, controlled by them. We're just here to provide their facilities and grist for the mill. Prisons are an industry too, connected to the same system. Lots of money keeping people locked up. Death penalty would really mess that up, if it got applied to the slime that it ought to and some of the stupid prosecutions/sentences that shouldn't happen, didn't. I mean, hey, if people thought that they might actually have to PAY for their crimes, crime rates might drop. Judges, lawyers, prosecutors, law enforcement, and various peripheral jobs would suffer.
Just my .02
Registering your firearms while living on post is nothing new. Granted the sign is of poor taste and probably posted up by some XO trying hard to do the right thing (or so he thinks). We had similar dumb signs hanging up everywhere when I was in. Like in the stall. Above the urinal, on the door in the stall. Over the drinking fountain, etc. All hung up by our fearless officers.
Barracks soldiers (single mostly) aren't allowed to have their guns in the barracks. You keep em' in the arms room. I was my troops armorer and it wasn't a hassle for the guys to draw them at all. If anything it was more of a hassle for me to have to coordinate issue and then re-take them. For them it was just a call. The barracks are places of high crime. Theft mostly. Soldier on soldier crime 95% of the time. Can't remember the saying to well but "no ones a thief, everyone's just trying to get their stuff back" or something like that. If you live in on-post housing (married soldiers) then you register them with the Provost Marshall and all is good. You get to cuddle with them at night if you choose in your home. Off post living is the best if your a gun person. Also the Army (the only branch I have experience with) isn't the kindest friendlies environment for people with thin skin. Ridicule is abundant from peers and people in leadership positions. Combine that with a metric fuck ton of booze, 18 year old sallies get wound up tight, and break.
Preaching to the choir but obviously gun control is dumb and never applies to criminals are general BG's.
My sister-in-law thinks that I am Right wing extremists, because I have a firearm.Quote:
Originally Posted by two shoes
She thinks I brainwashed my wife.
Oh yeah, they live in Chicago, IL.
That's like someone from an institution calling you mental because you don't have to stop by a window for your daily allotment of pills every day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPrena
I ws on active duty in the army from 1983-1992, 10 year, equally split between the 82nd Airborne and the 5th Special Forces. Even in SF we either had to keep our guns and ammo off post or in the arms room; that's assuming that you're single. I was never married while I was in, so I can't tell you anything about that.
When I was in the 82nd we had one hell of a time getting the arms room open on weekends, so most of us just kept them off post, in storage buildings generally. That also kept the armorers from messing with them, which some were want to do.
In SF we had a saying, "admit nothing, deny everything, make counteraccusations." That policy pretty well applied to everything in or out of garrison. Not saying that I was ever one to break the rules and keep a gun in the barracks though.
When I left the AF the dorm (that's Air Force for Barracks) guys had to keep their firearms in the BASE armory. They could be checked out, but HAD to be checked back in within a specified period (something like 48 hours unless you were leaving the area on leave or similar reason) and you had to tell the armorer what you were going to do with your gun (going to the range, hunting, etc.).
If you lived in Base (Family) Housing, you had to comply with all state/federal laws, but you weren't usually required to register the firearms and you could keep them in your Base Quarters. Of course, there were exceptions to this.
Back when I got to my first duty station in '85, my room-mate was an NCO who had several firearms in the armory. On several occasions he went to check out certain guns and the armorer couldn't locate the guns. When he'd go back the next day the guns were quickly located and found to have been fired (he cleaned all of his guns before returning them to the armory). He knew the armorer(s) were letting their fellow Security Police members take the guns out to shoot them. When he started putting trigger locks on the guns he was prohibited. This turned into a major fight with our Commander/First Sergeant, the Base Commander, and the Security Police Commander. Eventually, he was allowed to install the trigger locks on his guns. Of course, this occured about the time he got an apartment off base and withdrew his guns from the armory permanently.
While I'd say that a situation like that couldn't happen in todays day and age, one of the guys on my flight, an armorer, supposedly had a break-in of his apartment. Only 1 thing was supposedly stolen; a handgun belonging to his room-mate. His room-mate, who was deployed to Saudi at the time, knew something was fishy. A few times when this armorer was on-duty, a few small (non-firearm) items went missing. I found out later, just after I quit my time "playing cop that this armorer failed a urinalysis and was subsequently convicted of a Courts Martial for Cocaine use. It can still happen.
Back in 1992 at Ft Carson the CG locked down the whole base and ordered room by room searches for weapons, because too many people were shooting themselves in the barracks or others / each other in the Springs. They found an interesting array of hardware and drove several people off in cuffs from my battalion alone. It happens.
But the sign is unnecessarily insulting, to be sure.
Tyrannical dictators force their subjects to register their firearms, so they can take them away..
are you a Tyrannical dictator?
but I also agree with the comments that this was posted on a base, and you're subject to different rules there (much as you are when in a privately owned building- no firearms allowed in the building I work in, either..)
you don't have to agree with the rules to abide by them... you have to have the rules changed...
Sounds close enough to me. Are version was “There is only one thief in the Marine Corps, everyone else is just trying to get their gear back".Quote:
Originally Posted by GunTroll
Wasn't there a court decision that said that they can't do that any more?Quote:
Originally Posted by 68Charger