It seems Winters, who has voted to take our guns away, was driving with a 0.18 BAC when she caused a collision and killed herself.
Hmmmm
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It seems Winters, who has voted to take our guns away, was driving with a 0.18 BAC when she caused a collision and killed herself.
Hmmmm
Ya, well...
Another good reason to drive a F350 big truck!
https://coloradosun.com/2025/12/19/f...utopsy-report/
I don't cheer her death, but at the same time I don't feel any remorse given that her death was self inflicted.
From the article BMB provided a link to:
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Then, in 2024, Winter briefly stepped away from her legislative work to seek medical treatment for alcoholism.
I'm going to go ahead and say the treatment she received was a failure.
Also in that linked was an image of Winters 2 children being presented a CO state flag from Gov Polis. The one on the right (viewers right) is a male/son; Just guessing but I'd say Tobin goes by she/her/we/they. Explains why Winters pushed certain things on this state. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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Is there a certain reaction I’m SUPPOSED to have? I can’t find it.
I'll take the "Play stupid games... Win stupid prizes" reaction for $200, Alex.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEAMRICO
Addiction is a bitch.
Are those kids in their pajamas?
I was wondering that too. I get that they're kids (14 & 16 yo), and mom isn't there to guide them, but at that age you'd think they'd know to wear something more appropriate for the occasion.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyDrama
Pajamas are a very popular wardrobe choice with the alphabet people. Colored hair (usually blue, green, purple or green) are almost always in pajamas in public. It’s an odd thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
So, Winter was drunk driving at twice the legal limit, caused a crash that injured 3 people, and Jared Polis ordered flags to be flown at half staff. Got it.
Were the victims non democrat? The public ought to know.
https://coloradosun.com/2024/07/08/f...ics-violation/
...state Sen. Faith Winter violated the Colorado Senate’s ethics rules when she appeared to be intoxicated when attending a community meeting (2024)
The Colorado Senate Committee on Ethics voted 4-1 to find that Winter, the chamber’s assistant majority leader, failed to meet the Senate’s ethics standards requiring that she promote public integrity and public confidence.
Winter cited the culture of alcohol use at the Capitol in her response, saying “it is used in many ways, including promoting camaraderie and as a coping mechanism.”
"...consuming alcohol while acting as a senator is commonplace in this state, so much so that it is widely publicized.”
I disagree that her treatment failed. She wasn't willing to admit that she was a drunk. Shifting blame on anything but yourself is the sign you are not ready to quit. Only when someone decides to quit will they actually stop. No amount of coercion will get someone to stop drinking- only they can stop themselves.
.185 is a LOT of booze. 10-12 beers in 4 hours. That isn't fear of speaking or camaraderie. That is alcoholism.
@eddiememphis
Very well said. You touched on several very salient points.
“Winter cited the culture of alcohol use at the Capitol in her response, saying “it is used in many ways, including promoting camaraderie and as a coping mechanism.”
Ok, why the F is there alcohol in the Capitol?
Yeah, they gotta get blitzed before they can vote to pass the shit that they even know is crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiememphis
Fuck that CUNT!
She could have killed me or my wife...
Yeah nearly 2x the legal limit, she was pretty hammered and 100% should have known she was well over the limit at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by eddiememphis
I'd hedge a bet it was ~3 strong cocktails or something of that sort. There's nobody that thinks they are OK after 3-4 of such at any restaurant. Nobody.
Addiction is a real bitch, some of us have the sense not to start in the first place.
That is more than three strong cocktails..Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtArt
There are almost daily gatherings (luncheons, dinners, social gatherings) sponsored by lobbyists, corporations, businesses and business coops, trade associations, advocacy groups, PACS, and special interest groups all looking to build relationships and engage with legislators and attempt to influence policy and legislation. Most, if not all, will involve food and alcohol as a means to "loosen" the legislators up and be more congenial to discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEAMRICO
Wouldn't this lead to more legislators being contacted and arrested for DUI, you might ask? Good question! There is such a thing as "legislative immunity" that is found in section 16 of article V of the Colorado constitution. This section states that a legislator cannot be arrested, except for treason or a felony, while attending or traveling to or from a legislative session or committee hearing. The courts have said that, with regard to anything a legislator does that falls within the “sphere of legitimate legislative activity,” the legislator cannot be civilly sued, criminally prosecuted under state law, or forced to testify or produce documents.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...ker-out-of-dui
https://www.mycoloradodefenselawyer....s-legislators/
Her legislative immunity didn’t apply to death I guess.
Let be honest. She committed crimes.
Minimum is Vehicular Manslaughter. She was drunk driver that killed someone.
And we fly flags half staff to honor criminals that die while committing crimes?
Keep that in mind. She died while and because of committing crimes.
Maybe. She appeared to be a very small stature. If she was 110 lbs, 3 strong drinks (or 4 average mixed drinks) would get her to 0.18. If she was 120 lbs, 4 mixed drinks would get her to 0.16 but 5 would take her to 0.21 (Calculations based on just 1 hour since first drink which we can assume to be the case).Quote:
Originally Posted by def90
But isn't DUI considered a felony (maybe not, but I always assumed it was).Quote:
Originally Posted by OneGuy67
Either way, we know that people in positions of authority or power aren't typically held to the same standard as the rest of us. This has got to chap the butts of LEO's who encounter people like her (rightly so!). Must be nice to have a "get out of jail free card".
The next anti drunk driving legislation should be named in her honor.
She is the only one that died.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDT951
But isn't DUI considered a felony (maybe not, but I always assumed it was).
In Colorado, DUI is a misdemeanor. A fourth offense, and after, bumps it up to a felony.
If the DUI causes serious bodily injury or death, that also bumps it up to a felony.
She rolled the dice getting behind the wheel intoxicated. Sooner or later they come up snake eyes. I'm just glad no one else was seriously hurt or killed in the wreck.
DUI is a misdemeanor unless there is serious bodily injury involved. Since the legislative body wasn't in session, she would be eligible for being charged with a DUI if caught. It only applies during the session and in that area of going to and from. There have been a few legislators arrested for DUI outside the legislative session that the immunity didn't apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
Why are legislators immune to laws? Zero tolerance for us, even less for them.
Many years ago I remember listening to MaryAnne Tebedo brag about how she could drive as fast as she wanted to from the 'springs to Denver during the legislative session.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MaryAnne_Tebedo
O2
Over 2x the legal limit. 2 * 0.08 = .16, 0.185 > 0.16.Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxtArt
Sorry, the engineer in me couldn't let it go...
O2
Yeah, I did the math as soon as I saw her BAC (before FoxArt's post). 2.31x the legal limit to be more precise.
Shows how much of a heavy drinker I am... I forgot it wasn't 0.1 anymore. And that change was a loooong time ago. I'm no teetotaler, but with all the downsides (like cancer risk), hard to find an occasion anymore where it's worthwhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by O2HeN2
Drink one or more to toast our President!
He's already toasted. Even his chief of staff agrees. Not sure that drinking to the spray-tanned elderly patient accomplishes a whole lot more, he's doing so well that I imagine he'll be remembered for paying off the deficit (never expanding it, promise), ending wars on day 1 (not starting any, promise), and building the most robust economy the US has ever seen (everything is more affordable, promise!) oh, and a ballroom as national priority #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEAMRICO
Pretty sure you may be needing a drink by 2028. He does everything I predicted / nothing unexpected for me, so I'm fine with popcorn.
If we got a conservative in office, I'd drink to that.
Cheers to President Trump!
Hip Hip Hooray!
A toast to President Trump for 2028!
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A toast to McDonalds, because we'll have a different president even before 2028 [Coffee]Quote:
Originally Posted by TEAMRICO
Oh, you’re gonna get him…….this time right?
You take pride in your hatred.
It gets boring for the rest of us. Live your life. Try to be happy….try it.
So an alcoholic politician dies in a car wreck and now we are arguing about a convicted felon pedo? Come on guys we can do better!
Every post on this site should be in the politics section- they all end up being about Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by BushMasterBoy
The limit now is .05, they call it DWAI
Driving while ability impaired
I don't drink outside the house
I only drink 2-3 times a year
I drink, I Uber or ride the bus, not really any reason not to these days.