Winters BAC

[eddiememphis]

https://coloradosun.com/2024/07/08/f...ics-violation/

...state Sen. Faith Winter violated the Colorado Senate’s ethics rules when she appeared to be intoxicated when attending a community meeting (2024)

The Colorado Senate Committee on Ethics voted 4-1 to find that Winter, the chamber’s assistant majority leader, failed to meet the Senate’s ethics standards requiring that she promote public integrity and public confidence.

Winter cited the culture of alcohol use at the Capitol in her response, saying “it is used in many ways, including promoting camaraderie and as a coping mechanism.”

"...consuming alcohol while acting as a senator is commonplace in this state, so much so that it is widely publicized.”

I disagree that her treatment failed. She wasn't willing to admit that she was a drunk. Shifting blame on anything but yourself is the sign you are not ready to quit. Only when someone decides to quit will they actually stop. No amount of coercion will get someone to stop drinking- only they can stop themselves.

.185 is a LOT of booze. 10-12 beers in 4 hours. That isn't fear of speaking or camaraderie. That is alcoholism.

[JohnnyDrama]

@eddiememphis

Very well said. You touched on several very salient points.

[TEAMRICO]

“Winter cited the culture of alcohol use at the Capitol in her response, saying “it is used in many ways, including promoting camaraderie and as a coping mechanism.”

Ok, why the F is there alcohol in the Capitol?

[def90]

https://coloradosun.com/2024/07/08/f...ics-violation/

...state Sen. Faith Winter violated the Colorado Senate’s ethics rules when she appeared to be intoxicated when attending a community meeting (2024)

The Colorado Senate Committee on Ethics voted 4-1 to find that Winter, the chamber’s assistant majority leader, failed to meet the Senate’s ethics standards requiring that she promote public integrity and public confidence.

Winter cited the culture of alcohol use at the Capitol in her response, saying “it is used in many ways, including promoting camaraderie and as a coping mechanism.”

"...consuming alcohol while acting as a senator is commonplace in this state, so much so that it is widely publicized.”

I disagree that her treatment failed. She wasn't willing to admit that she was a drunk. Shifting blame on anything but yourself is the sign you are not ready to quit. Only when someone decides to quit will they actually stop. No amount of coercion will get someone to stop drinking- only they can stop themselves.

.185 is a LOT of booze. 10-12 beers in 4 hours. That isn't fear of speaking or camaraderie. That is alcoholism.

Yeah, they gotta get blitzed before they can vote to pass the shit that they even know is crap.

[bellavite1]

Fuck that CUNT!
She could have killed me or my wife...

[FoxtArt]

.185 is a LOT of booze. 10-12 beers in 4 hours. That isn't fear of speaking or camaraderie. That is alcoholism.

Yeah nearly 2x the legal limit, she was pretty hammered and 100% should have known she was well over the limit at that point.

I'd hedge a bet it was ~3 strong cocktails or something of that sort. There's nobody that thinks they are OK after 3-4 of such at any restaurant. Nobody.

Addiction is a real bitch, some of us have the sense not to start in the first place.

[def90]

Yeah nearly 2x the legal limit, she was pretty hammered and 100% should have known she was well over the limit at that point.

I'd hedge a bet it was ~3 strong cocktails or something of that sort. There's nobody that thinks they are OK after 3-4 of such at any restaurant. Nobody.

Addiction is a real bitch, some of us have the sense not to start in the first place.

That is more than three strong cocktails..

[OneGuy67]

Ok, why the F is there alcohol in the Capitol?

There are almost daily gatherings (luncheons, dinners, social gatherings) sponsored by lobbyists, corporations, businesses and business coops, trade associations, advocacy groups, PACS, and special interest groups all looking to build relationships and engage with legislators and attempt to influence policy and legislation. Most, if not all, will involve food and alcohol as a means to "loosen" the legislators up and be more congenial to discussions.

Wouldn't this lead to more legislators being contacted and arrested for DUI, you might ask? Good question! There is such a thing as "legislative immunity" that is found in section 16 of article V of the Colorado constitution. This section states that a legislator cannot be arrested, except for treason or a felony, while attending or traveling to or from a legislative session or committee hearing. The courts have said that, with regard to anything a legislator does that falls within the “sphere of legitimate legislative activity,” the legislator cannot be civilly sued, criminally prosecuted under state law, or forced to testify or produce documents.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...ker-out-of-dui

https://www.mycoloradodefenselawyer....s-legislators/

[DDT951]

Her legislative immunity didn’t apply to death I guess.

Let be honest. She committed crimes.

Minimum is Vehicular Manslaughter. She was drunk driver that killed someone.

And we fly flags half staff to honor criminals that die while committing crimes?

Keep that in mind. She died while and because of committing crimes.

[theGinsue]

That is more than three strong cocktails..

Maybe. She appeared to be a very small stature. If she was 110 lbs, 3 strong drinks (or 4 average mixed drinks) would get her to 0.18. If she was 120 lbs, 4 mixed drinks would get her to 0.16 but 5 would take her to 0.21 (Calculations based on just 1 hour since first drink which we can assume to be the case).

Wouldn't this lead to more legislators being contacted and arrested for DUI, you might ask? Good question! There is such a thing as "legislative immunity" that is found in section 16 of article V of the Colorado constitution. This section states that a legislator cannot be arrested, except for treason or a felony, while attending or traveling to or from a legislative session or committee hearing. The courts have said that, with regard to anything a legislator does that falls within the “sphere of legitimate legislative activity,” the legislator cannot be civilly sued, criminally prosecuted under state law, or forced to testify or produce documents.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...ker-out-of-dui

https://www.mycoloradodefenselawyer....s-legislators/

But isn't DUI considered a felony (maybe not, but I always assumed it was).

Either way, we know that people in positions of authority or power aren't typically held to the same standard as the rest of us. This has got to chap the butts of LEO's who encounter people like her (rightly so!). Must be nice to have a "get out of jail free card".