Figuring Out Your Side of the Fence

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07-22-2010, 07:15
Ranger

Figuring Out Your Side of the Fence

If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Democrat is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Democrat wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Republican doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Democrats demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A Democrat demands that the rest of us pay for his
07-22-2010, 07:24
StagLefty

I may be wrong but I'm getting so I don't like either one of them ! All of them are so far out of touch with reality it's scary. They have no idea what the average citizen in this country is going through day by day. They vote for their own raises,have the best health care,solid retirement etc. I love my country but I hate politics. [Beer]
07-22-2010, 08:32
BigBear

Is there really a difference between donkeys and elephants anymore?...
07-22-2010, 09:04
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by BigBear

Is there really a difference between donkeys and elephants anymore?...

At the top no, but at the grass roots level there's still significant difference between D's and R's
07-22-2010, 09:08
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

At the top no, but at the grass roots level there's still significant difference between D's and R's

I agree. Got to get the McCains and Grahams out of the picture to start, but the Tea Party has helped get some of our core principals back on the map.
07-22-2010, 09:09
ronaldrwl

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Originally Posted by BigBear

Is there really a difference between donkeys and elephants anymore?...

Yes
07-22-2010, 10:51
BigBear

Tell me about it then, cause I see people in BOTH parties who:

- Believe/don't believe in God
- Want/don't want gun rights
- Vote for/against abortion/gay/etc rights
- et al, ad nauseam.

I mean, I guess the bottom line is just cause you go to Taco Bell, it doesn't make you a Taco....
07-22-2010, 10:53
cowboykjohnson

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Originally Posted by BigBear

I mean, I guess the bottom line is just cause you go to Taco Bell, it doesn't make you a Taco....

Or does it...?[Tooth]
07-22-2010, 11:16
Ranger

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Originally Posted by BigBear

I mean, I guess the bottom line is just cause you go to Taco Bell, it doesn't make you a Taco....

Seriously? Whew! I thought for sure I was a Nacho Bellgrande - you don't know how relieved I am now.

[Stooge]
07-22-2010, 11:17
68Charger

I think the OP would be more correct if "Republican" was replaced by "Conservative", and "Democrat" was replaced by "Liberal/progressive"

I'm with others, I wish it were as easy as picking a party- we need a way to abolish the 2-party system, it's not working anymore...
07-22-2010, 11:19
BigBear

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Originally Posted by cowboykjohnson

Or does it...?[Tooth]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ranger

Seriously? Whew! I thought for sure I was a Nacho Bellgrande - you don't know how relieved I am now.

[Stooge]

Darnit... guess I'm just a beans and rice then... lol. [Beer]
07-22-2010, 11:22
cowboykjohnson

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Originally Posted by BigBear

Darnit... guess I'm just a beans and rice then... lol. [Beer]

Red or green sauce?
07-22-2010, 11:22
Ranger

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Originally Posted by 68Charger

I think the OP would be more correct if "Republican" was replaced by "Conservative", and "Democrat" was replaced by "Liberal/progressive"

AMEN! I really don't call myself a republican anymore, I call myself a conservative and I have nothing against democrats really, my fiance is (not really, she just won't admit it), but liberals - now that is a different story.

However, I still support our two party system because, as our forefathers knew, having more parties becomes problematic - you get alliances between parties and problems where a regional party, such as the liberal party, might not have enough steam to beat all conservatives lumped into a republican party but might easily beat out two smaller parties.

So I'm a republican by reference and a conservative by name, with the hope that my party gets more conservative and less liberal (as they are doing now).
07-22-2010, 11:24
BigBear

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Originally Posted by cowboykjohnson

Red or green sauce?

Gotta go with red even though I like a nice green chili sauce.

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Originally Posted by Ranger

So I'm a republican by reference and a conservative by name, with the hope that my party gets more conservative and less liberal.

+1 Ranger

[Beer]
07-22-2010, 11:43
Hoosier

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Originally Posted by Ranger

However, I still support our two party system because, as our forefathers knew, having more parties becomes problematic -

You believe the founding fathers established a two party system? The founders were against the idea of parties.

Quote:

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

George Washington's farewell address.

People wonder why the animosity continues to grow, you need only read these very forums to see the hatred. It's becoming difficult to be a moderate when both sides scream that the other is willfully damaging the country. When you reach the point in political discourse that you aren't willing to believe the other side has what they believe is the best interests of the country in mind, when you accuse them of being traitors, then rational discourse has ended.

The belligerence between the parties has long since reached the point of hurting the US.

Conference call is over, have a good day.

H.
07-23-2010, 09:55
cowboykjohnson

The UN told me that fences are for sitting on... [Tooth]
07-23-2010, 10:16
Ranger

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Originally Posted by Hoosier

You believe the founding fathers established a two party system? The founders were against the idea of parties.

Yes, while that is true, there was a general acceptance of two parties, and after Washington they really came into play. The founding fathers knew that factions would naturally develop (federalist paper #10).

Madison said, "There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests." Because neither of these are possible factions must exist. However, the way to maintain a balance of power is through a "multiplicity of faction." If they are all fighting for the same power, factions will give a little to gain a little.