F U Obamacare!

Well, being open enrollment time again for insurance, my wife was just informed by her employer that our family's health insurance in 2011 will be 240% of what is was in 2010 for the exact same coverage!!!! Fuck you Obama and fuck you dems that rammed that bullshit through. And fuck you Colorado for electing the same asshats again. You fuckers screwed EVERYONE. The health insurance companies are already getting ready to pad the bank accounts in order to afford all the extra bullshit and extra non-paying government mooches that Obamacare will now require. So my family of 3 will be paying $5k more in 2011 for the same health/dental/vision insurance. Not total...$5 fucking thousand MORE!!!! All well our employers tell us there is no increase in cost of living so there will be no raises this year even if they had a record year. This country has gone to major shit and I hope all the dipshits responsible that think Obamacare is a good thing for America drop fucking dead.

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Originally Posted by hollohas

This country has gone to major shit and I hope all the dipshits responsible that think Obamacare is a good thing for America drop fucking dead.

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I give it a 7.5 overall, maybe an 8....


Well done.[ROFL3]

Originally Posted by hollohas http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/images...s/viewpost.gif
This country has gone to major shit and I hope all the dipshits responsible that think Obamacare is a good thing for America drop fucking dead.

Naw the obamucare will keep them on life support.

Definitely 8/10. Could've used a little more name calling and blaming and a little less proper semtax and punctuation.

I do feel for you. I can't afford insurance now... regardless of what fun will come to fruitition by the 2014 deadline.

$450 a month here... and I thought I really got screwed! Sorry to hear that man. 2012 will be the very first time I will be real active volunteering etc to kick this bozo out of the office.

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Definitely 8/10. Could've used a little more name calling and blaming and a little less proper semtax and punctuation.

I do feel for you. I can't afford insurance now... regardless of what fun will come to fruitition by the 2014 deadline.

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Nutin.

Yep...

If you voted for Obama, a big FU to you. If you voted for Bennett and/or Udall, a 2xFU. Yes you. Whoever you are. Thanks for doing your part to fuck things up for the rest of us.

Plain and simple...if you voted for the democrats you are the enemy.

I'm ready to say fuck it and not pay for health insurance and tell them my name is ramon and everything I go in for is an emergency then bail out when I get better.

I give the rant a solid 8/10

What ever it is now, I am sure it is going to get much worse in the next couple years when they slowly adjust their rates according to their losses. I will have to see how much my family's rates went up.

And the word for today is:

FUCK[Beer]

Yeah, and this is not some mom-and-pop shop either. They have 150+ employees. I forgot to mention, we can choose the cheaper plan they now offer, only about $4k/year more then we pay now, but the coverage is about 1/3rd of the coverage we have now. Now isn't that nice of them to give us a special deal. Fuckers.

This was a very good plan with United Health Care which has been great for us while we had a baby and my wife had surgery among other things...but damn, so much for buying great insurance for our family. We'll now have to get the cheap ass insurance from my employer that doesn't cover shit.

The US Government - making sure hard working Americans take it in the ass.

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What ever it is now, I am sure it is going to get much worse in the next couple years when they slowly adjust their rates according to their losses.

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Exactly...I didn't think it would go up that much that fast...makes me sick to think what it will do in the years to come.

just the Man keeping his promises to the insurance industry.

Fuck the people.

The Number for the Day is 222.

That's how many waivers have been issued allowing certain companies, unions and other organizations to opt out of one provision or another of Obamacare.

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The Number for the Day is 222.

That's how many waivers have been issued allowing certain companies, unions and other organizations to opt out of one provision or another of Obamacare.

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This is truly insane. My mind can't comprehend how the people in this country got so dumb. Even while other countries like England are jumping off the sinking socialist ship by now making their kids actually pay for an education for example, we in America continue to climb aboard no matter how many people tell us we're going to drown.

+222E+222
Fu²
Fu³

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I'm ready to say fuck it and not pay for health insurance and tell them my name is ramon and everything I go in for is an emergency then bail out when I get better.

I give the rant a solid 8/10

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I have heard more statements similar to this than I care to count. I understand why too. I believe the "fine/tax" for not having health coverage is around 800.00. You can still go to a hospital if sick or such. Why would one spend 5K annually if basically healthy for insurance when you could just pay the "fine/tax"?

As far as the big FU to anybody who supported Oblunder, Udall, Bennet and such I concur and also say thanks.

As for the rant I am giving it a 9 out of 10.
Context and articulation was good, with a brazen dash of profanity adding tastefully to the delivery.[Beer]

That is one helluva good rant.

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Yep...

If you voted for Obama, a big FU to you. If you voted for Bennett and/or Udall, a 2xFU. Yes you. Whoever you are. Thanks for doing your part to fuck things up for the rest of us.

Plain and simple...if you voted for the democrats you are the enemy.

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I have felt this way for a looong time, the D is the enemy.

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I have heard more statements similar to this than I care to count. I understand why too. I believe the "fine/tax" for not having health coverage is around 800.00. You can still go to a hospital if sick or such. Why would one spend 5K annually if basically healthy for insurance when you could just pay the "fine/tax"?

As far as the big FU to anybody who supported Oblunder, Udall, Bennet and such I concur and also say thanks.

As for the rant I am giving it a 9 out of 10.
Context and articulation was good, with a brazen dash of profanity adding tastefully to the delivery.[Beer]

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Yup, that's the way to go. And if you get really sick just enroll and pay for insurance until you get better. Then drop out.

Our insurance is going UP $5,000 so we will be paying about $8,000 out-of-pocket per year in 2011 for a family of 3...that's after the employer contribution. We are paying about $3,000 now for the exact same coverage. The employer is paying the same amount as their contribution next year, but the employees are responsible for 100% of the 2011 cost increase.

I'll take that $800 fine any day over that.

A government mandates that it's citizens purchase a service. The ensuing regulations and kickbacks cause any private carriers of said service to dramatically raise its rates to where many can no longer afford it. This causes those that cannot afford it to rely on the above named government for said service.
= the rich will have the private care and the non rich will suffer the public care.
Elitism at its finest.
The royals and the serfs.

Socialism? Fascism?

No, America.

Frickin sad isn't it?

Not to go along with the crowd, but I give it a........8.5.

Best I have heard in a while, and SO TRUE.

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This is truly insane. My mind can't comprehend how the people in this country got so dumb. Even while other countries like England are jumping off the sinking socialist ship by now making their kids actually pay for an education for example, we in America continue to climb aboard no matter how many people tell us we're going to drown.

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^^^THIS, a good friend of mine is a LEGAL immigrant from "across the pond", and back when Obummer first started up with his "health care reform" talk, my friend was more passionately against it, than anyone else I spoke with about the topic. Just flat out DOES NOT work PERIOD, and was one of the many reasons he came to the United States.

Oh, and I rate the rant a 9, was the best rant seen in awhile.

9/10
The wife and I were feeling it just the other day when our new premium came in the mail. Ours has gone up almost $4k this year. We buy our own individual plans. Change plans NOW if you can before they get grandfathered in NEXT MONTH! Yes its a shitty convoluted piece of legislation designed to confuse and push people out of their plans and into the governments hands.[Rant1][Bang][Mad][Rant1][Bang][Mad][Rant1][Bang][Mad][Rant1][Bang][Mad]

Oh yea....
FU

Not to stray from bashing O and the Dems, but it is absolutely crazy how much the cost of insurance rises when you go from Single to couple to family. I only pay for coverage for myself, but some of my co-workers who have spouses and kids pay WAY more than I do. Almost makes a person not want to get married or have kids.

Man everytime I hear these nightmare, I just realize how thankful I am to have my Tricare through my retirement.

Mine only went up $300 this time I was suprised!!! But I am sure their will be other changes I dont see, I know some stuff that was covered is no longer covered.

So what do we do when it gets repealed and the insurance companies maintain the rates "because they can", poor legislation that gave an excuse for greed.

Reviving a zombie thread because it's health insurance enrollment time again.

New employer since the OP. Much bigger company. But guess what, my 2013 health insurance premiums went up again. $1,300 more than the same insurance for 2012. Not only that, out-of-pocket maximums and deductibles went up too.

And pre-tax FSA maximum contributions have been reduced. (What's that you say? Obama told us no tax increases for the middle class?) Well, we use our FSA so that decrease in the pre-tax contributions is basically a $400 tax increase on my family.

Since ObamaCare passed, my insurance premiums have gone up about $7,300. They rarely went up by much each year before that.

Luckily this time my employer is covering about 75% of the premium increase unlike the increases from 2010 to 11 and 2011 to 12 which hit me directly. We'll still get hit with the increased deductibles, etc.

So consider this a big THANK YOU Obama for lowering health care costs in our country! It's sure helping my family.

Can't wait until you are gone at the end of the year.

^^ You must be mistaken. Healthcare costs are going to be lower with Obamacare. [/sarcasm]

That's going to become one of the BIG lies...along the lines of, "The check is in the mail."

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^^ You must be mistaken. Healthcare costs are going to be lower with Obamacare. [/sarcasm]

That's going to become one of the BIG lies...along the lines of, "The check is in the mail."

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I'll still respect you in the morning...

I'll only put the tip in...

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I sure hope Mitt follows through on day 1 with starting the repeal of obamacare.

Honestly, I don't think the coverage is going to get better AND the premiums will go down....the insurance companies are getting their money, they got people and companies by the nuts. The thing we can hope for is relaxed regulations and laws creating more competition and lower prices.

FUBO.

Nope, insurance costs won't go down with a repeal. The damage is done. All I can hope for is that they increase pre-tax health care savings to offset some of the out-of-pocket costs.

No kidding. My employer is about as generous as they come, and they're covering 75% of our premiums as well. After another year working here, they'll cover 90% for me, but that only comes from being with the company for so long. Regardless of their generosity, I still have to pay $140.50 per month. That means my actual premiums are $562 per month, up from $96 per month in 2006, when I moved to CO. Granted my insurance company and policy has changed since then, my copays, out of pocket maximums, and the things that I actually remember, are all the same. This is ridiculous.

DAMN!! this free healthcare sure costs alot.[Tooth]

Healthcare is not a right.

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Healthcare is not a right.

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Exactly right.

I am paying $7300 more for premiums in 3 years (not to mention thousands more in increased deductibles and co insurance) just to make it cheaper for others to get insurance/care. BS.

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DAMN!! this free healthcare sure costs alot.[Tooth]

Healthcare is not a right.

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Fascist!

If you guys have jobs, you're doing it all wrong.