UN Arms Treaty

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07-25-2012, 15:27
yankeefan98121

UN Arms Treaty

Why try to take a stance on Gun Control, especially during an election year, when you can have Nato take care of it:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07...at-gun-owners/
07-25-2012, 15:36
kanekutter05

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Originally Posted by yankeefan98121

Why try to take a stance on Gun Control, especially during an election year, when you can have Nato take care of it:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07...at-gun-owners/

Thankfully any treaty negotiated by the Executive Branch needs a 2/3 Senate majority to ratify it. And it looks like 58 have already signed on to vote against this treaty. The treaty itself shouldn't end up being an issue.

But it's incredibly scary that it's even being talked about as something America would want to get involved in
07-25-2012, 15:43
Zundfolge

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Originally Posted by kanekutter05

Thankfully any treaty negotiated by the Executive Branch needs a 2/3 Senate majority to ratify it.

According to Dick Morris there is a sneaky, underhanded, "back door" way to get it ratified and that is to NOT bring it to the senate floor and for the president NOT to renounce it ... then it becomes law without anyone having to lift a finger.

Not sure he's right, but its yet another reason to vote the bastard out.
07-25-2012, 15:50
Singlestack

+1 Yes Morris talked about this on Hannity last week. Pretty da*n diabolical that the executive branch can act as if it passed while in limbo. If thats true, our legislators have clearly been again working against the people.

Singlestack
07-25-2012, 15:53
kanekutter05

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

According to Dick Morris there is a sneaky, underhanded, "back door" way to get it ratified and that is to NOT bring it to the senate floor and for the president NOT to renounce it ... then it becomes law without anyone having to lift a finger.

Not sure he's right, but its yet another reason to vote the bastard out.

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Originally Posted by Singlestack

+1 Yes Morris talked about this on Hannity last week. Pretty da*n diabolical that the executive branch can act as if it passed while in limbo. If thats true, our legislators have clearly been again working against the people.

Singlestack

Yikes I had not seen that. It appears that this year's election is becoming more and more important by the minute.
07-25-2012, 15:54
Zundfolge

I keep telling y'all that if Obama is re-elected, America is over. That ain't hyperbole.
07-25-2012, 16:07
yankeefan98121

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

I keep telling y'all that if Obama is re-elected, America is over. That ain't hyperbole.

I agree 100%
07-25-2012, 16:08
ruthabagah

1 - It's not NATO, it's the UN
2 - The Right to Keep and Bear arms is guaranteed in the constitution and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the US supreme court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the US senate (if it is ratified)
07-25-2012, 16:12
yankeefan98121

Yeah, who do you think they will send if a countries citizens doesn't abide by the treaty
07-25-2012, 16:13
kanekutter05

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Originally Posted by yankeefan98121

Yeah, who do you think they will send if a countries citizens doesn't abide by the treaty

Iran...since they get a seat at the treaty negotiation table and all...
07-25-2012, 19:59
Adawg38

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07-25-2012, 20:12
Mattallen0506

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Originally Posted by ruthabagah

1 - It's not NATO, it's the UN
2 - The Right to Keep and Bear arms is guaranteed in the constitution and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the US supreme court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the US senate (if it is ratified)

You are right on. However, we cannot rely on a mixed bag of Justices to make the decisions that are in our best interest. Case in point: Obamacare.