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    Why try to take a stance on Gun Control, especially during an election year, when you can have Nato take care of it:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07...at-gun-owners/

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan98121 View Post
    Why try to take a stance on Gun Control, especially during an election year, when you can have Nato take care of it:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/07...at-gun-owners/
    Thankfully any treaty negotiated by the Executive Branch needs a 2/3 Senate majority to ratify it. And it looks like 58 have already signed on to vote against this treaty. The treaty itself shouldn't end up being an issue.

    But it's incredibly scary that it's even being talked about as something America would want to get involved in

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    Quote Originally Posted by kanekutter05 View Post
    Thankfully any treaty negotiated by the Executive Branch needs a 2/3 Senate majority to ratify it.

    According to Dick Morris
    there is a sneaky, underhanded, "back door" way to get it ratified and that is to NOT bring it to the senate floor and for the president NOT to renounce it ... then it becomes law without anyone having to lift a finger.

    Not sure he's right, but its yet another reason to vote the bastard out.
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    +1 Yes Morris talked about this on Hannity last week. Pretty da*n diabolical that the executive branch can act as if it passed while in limbo. If thats true, our legislators have clearly been again working against the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post

    According to Dick Morris
    there is a sneaky, underhanded, "back door" way to get it ratified and that is to NOT bring it to the senate floor and for the president NOT to renounce it ... then it becomes law without anyone having to lift a finger.

    Not sure he's right, but its yet another reason to vote the bastard out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Singlestack View Post
    +1 Yes Morris talked about this on Hannity last week. Pretty da*n diabolical that the executive branch can act as if it passed while in limbo. If thats true, our legislators have clearly been again working against the people.

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    Yikes I had not seen that. It appears that this year's election is becoming more and more important by the minute.

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    I keep telling y'all that if Obama is re-elected, America is over. That ain't hyperbole.
    Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    I keep telling y'all that if Obama is re-elected, America is over. That ain't hyperbole.
    I agree 100%

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    1 - It's not NATO, it's the UN
    2 - The Right to Keep and Bear arms is guaranteed in the constitution and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the US supreme court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the US senate (if it is ratified)
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    Yeah, who do you think they will send if a countries citizens doesn't abide by the treaty

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan98121 View Post
    Yeah, who do you think they will send if a countries citizens doesn't abide by the treaty
    Iran...since they get a seat at the treaty negotiation table and all...

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