What is a Liberal or a Conservative?

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10-03-2012, 16:08
Rucker61

What is a Liberal or a Conservative?

Looking to get a reasonable consensus on the division on the issues. Here are a few links - feedback on their accuracy?

http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/cons...beral-beliefs/

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Con...ive_vs_Liberal

http://news-basics.com/2010/liberal-...vative-values/
10-03-2012, 16:14
Mick-Boy

What is a liberal or a conservative?

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.
10-03-2012, 16:29
Great-Kazoo

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

^Sums it up for me.^
10-03-2012, 16:34
RMAC757

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

Brilliant....well said. I'll take neither.
10-03-2012, 16:37
sniper7

Rucker, you're a liberal...why don't you tell everyone about yourself. I won't read it because your comments are ignored by me, but since you brought it up, why don't you let everyone that doesn't have you on their ignore list have a reason to put you on it
10-03-2012, 16:38
Sawin

So do Libertarians try to legislate "minimally"?
10-03-2012, 16:39
Teufelhund

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

Great summary.[Beer]

Unfortunately, we continuously overlook the fact that Congress does not have the power to legislate either one.
10-03-2012, 17:05
ChunkyMonkey

^ +1 Congress are filled with a bunch of fv*ktards.
10-03-2012, 17:40
xring

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Originally Posted by RMAC757

Brilliant....well said. I'll take neither.

+1
Con lib
rep dem
red blue
divide and conquer

I value decent, hard working, honest, Americans!

Cant we all just get along?

Issues are important.
Boxes not so much.
10-03-2012, 17:54
roberth

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Great summary.[Beer]

Unfortunately, we continuously overlook the fact that Congress does not have the power to legislate either one.

But they sure do try don't they.
10-03-2012, 18:30
Rooskibar03

Conservatives read the constitution for what it says.

Liberals interpret the constitution for what they think it can say.
10-03-2012, 18:36
Sharpienads

People who call themselves conservative may try to legislate morality, but just because they call themselves something doesn't make it true.

Do you believe in the constitution, rule of law, and individual liberty? Do you believe that free people should be left to govern themselves? Do you believe that individuals should be held accountable for their own actions? Then you're conservative. If you don't, you're something else.
10-03-2012, 18:40
Teufelhund

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Originally Posted by Sharpienads

People who call themselves conservative may try to legislate morality, but just because they call themselves something doesn't make it true.

Do you believe in the constitution, rule of law, and individual liberty? Do you believe that free people should be left to govern themselves? Do you believe that individuals should be held accountable for their own actions? Then you're conservative. If you don't, you're something else.

Hmmm. . . if that's your definition of a conservative, I think I need to see an example of someone in office right now whom you think is a conservative.
10-03-2012, 18:51
bogie

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

Very good one, and another I like...

Conservatives get mad when you lie to them.

Liberals get mad when you tell them the truth.
10-03-2012, 19:20
Sharpienads

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Hmmm. . . if that's your definition of a conservative, I think I need to see an example of someone in office right now whom you think is a conservative.

Yeah, I would, too.
10-03-2012, 19:34
HoneyBadger

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Originally Posted by Teufelhund

Hmmm. . . if that's your definition of a conservative, I think I need to see an example of someone in office right now whom you think is a conservative.

Well, I did see a pig fly on my way home from work yesterday...

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Originally Posted by Sawin

So do Libertarians try to legislate "minimally"?

Yup! [Beer]
10-03-2012, 20:12
Ah Pook

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

This is sig worthy.
10-04-2012, 00:35
Irving

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Originally Posted by Mick-Boy

Liberals try to legislate responsibility.

Conservatives try to legislate morality.

I would change 'conservatives' to 'Republicans.'
10-04-2012, 10:48
Ronin13

The way I see it- Republicans favor small government, personal responsibility, pro-business, less government programs, and less government involvement in personal matters.

Democrats favor more government, more dependence, more programs, less responsibility, and government can manage your life for you. [Bang]
10-04-2012, 11:10
MED

In this pop culture context, a liberal is a person who pushes the boundaries of government and social acceptance; a conservative resits the change.

This is not to be confused with Liberalism in the John Locke political philosophy context (essentially, the basis of our constitution).

In terms of today's politics in the United States, the ugly word Socialist is not used, but it should be used. The current liberal change movement is pushing for Socialism while the conservative movement is pushing to preserve our original social contract (The Constitution). Socialism and Liberalism (our Constitution) can't co-exist.

Edit: It is important to note that our Constitution and our way of life was formed because of a liberal movement. (I just happen to believe they got it right, and the current movement is horribly wrong.)
10-04-2012, 12:28
scratchy

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Originally Posted by bogie

Very good one, and another I like...

Conservatives get mad when you lie to them.

Liberals get mad when you tell them the truth.

They also get angry when you catch them lying.
10-04-2012, 12:31
HoneyBadger

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Originally Posted by Ronin13

The way I see it- Libertarians favor small government, personal responsibility, pro-business, less government programs, and less government involvement in personal matters.

Socialists favor more government, more dependence, more programs, less responsibility, and government can manage your life for you. [Bang]

Fixed it for you. [Beer]
10-04-2012, 14:10
Ronin13

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Fixed it for you. [Beer]

Ah, I see what you did there... touche! [Weight]
Might I add... the RIGHT is more inclined to logic and reasoning,
The LEFT is more inclined to emotional interjection.
10-04-2012, 15:15
tonantius

Classic Liberal - Freedom to do as you want
Classic Conservative - Nothing changes

Modern liberal - freedom to have sex with any one and government pays for everything, special interest groups get special favors, belief in socialism and social justice (i.e., unequal justice)

Modern Conservative - belief in the Creator, self-government, republican federalism, rule of law, everyone is equal, equal justice

Democrat party founded by Andrew Jackson and the party of slavery

Early Republican Party originally founded by Thomas Jefferson, evolved into Whigs, and then into the modern Republican Party

Libertarians - akin to classic liberals