I guess you get the bull by the horns with this one...not that I've ever eaten there, but definitely never will...
Rosa Linda’s rejects mittens
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I guess you get the bull by the horns with this one...not that I've ever eaten there, but definitely never will...
Rosa Linda’s rejects mittens
The guy was put in a no win situation. Go left or right, the result would have been the same.
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Originally Posted by buckshotbarlow
Typical "we're not political" BS.Quote:
"We could use the business, I’m not going to lie," Aguirre told The Daily. “But at the same time, what kind of message is that going to send?”
If they were worried about the message they would have served President Romney and proven they weren't political. I bet they'd serve The Failure or The Looper. They've painted themselves as political stooges with this stunt.
This is different from the guy who wouldn't serve Biden because he was honest about why he wouldn't serve Biden and Rosa Linda is being dishonest.
I grew up eating there. The owners are the nicest people ever. Rosa linda bought all the kids in my school uniforms when the parents couldnt afford them. Theire decision hasnt taken away my respect for what they have done for the community for all these years.
I know the son Oscar and they're all good people over there. They aren't on an anti-mitt warpath they just don't want to be involved in the politics and the campaign and I don't blame them I wouldn't want to be either. To be flaming them for this is ridiculous who really gives a shit? It's not mine or anyone else's place to tell them how they should feel politically.
This is exactly why I hate election years. Instead of finding and electing a respectful leader for the US we all bitch at each other about who's better and start meaningless fights.
No we don't!Quote:
Originally Posted by kuench
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YES WE DO!!![Rant1]Quote:
Originally Posted by theGinsue
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It sounds like they are great people but how dumb is that. Show a little backbone and serve lunch.
Turning him down put them into the politics, serving him just as they serve any other customer that would walk through the door would be keeping to their business and not entering politics.
I don't eat there because of the politics. I eat there because of the food.
My email to them [Cry]
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Due to recent events when you turned down the nominee Romney for food, I will have to never step foot in your establishment again.
It saddens me as I have enjoyed your restaurant and the great food for a very long time. My wife turned me onto your food and have really enjoyed it since 2005.
Thank you for the gracious memories and wonderful food. I am going to miss your food.
Good for you! Maybe it'll be easier for you to get a table now.Quote:
Originally Posted by glock21
I think ill stop by for lunch. Care to join me?Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
[quote=glock21;660961]Not today--maybe some other time.Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
I think to boycott them is silly. They were in a "damned if you don't, damned if you do" situation. If they'd taken the reservation and let him in, the press would've had a field day about "favoritism". Probably not so much about Obama, because he's the Liberal Press' darling. Now, if they'd serve Obama, but not Romney, then that would be different.
But if they're saying "we don't want either of them in here because we don't want to be portrayed as aligned with either side", then I applaud them. But, I don't even know where the place is.
They may have thought so, but refusing to serve a candidate is a much stronger political statement than serving a candidate. So what could just be a miscalculation on their part looks like a pretty harsh partisan political statement. Rosa Linda's will be much more harmed by their decision not to serve Romney than if they would have just served him and kept their mouths shut.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperiorDG
These guys eat out probably at least once a day and often more, so there's tons or restaurants they eat at and we never hear anything about it.
Its incredibly foolish for a restaurant to make a big deal about serving or refusing to serve a particular politician in this heated political environment.
EDIT
Here's a note from the owner ... sounds like this isn't about refusing to serve him a meal, but about refusing to be a campaign stop (which frankly I can understand).
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I (Oscar) would like to apologize to EVERY ONE WE MAY HAVE offended concerning Governor Mitt Romney, and the article in Westword. We did not refuse him service yesterday. THAT IS FALSE! As stated in the article, when we were contacted by the campaign of candidate Romney on August 6th, by a former Mormon missionary, that he would like to bring the candidate here, NOT TO EAT but; it was presented to us that he wanted to do a political stump here. Talk about our small business and how because we share our religious views with the candidate and are Latinos it would be great for him to do a campaign stop. We did say NO because we are not Republicans, nor are we Democrats. We will welcome any sitting President of the United States. But we did not want to be a campaign stopping place....
Since this article came out we have been getting hate emails, from people across the country, people sending us death threats and people calling us telling us we are racist... that they hope we go out of business. All are welcome to join us for family meal! we may not be your cup of tea but we still welcome anybody with open arms.
We DID NOT WANT TO BE A POLITICAL STOP!!
If we do go out of business our Annual Thanksgiving Feast to the needy would end. Last year we fed 5500 meals, this year we may serve above 6000 meals. Please let the American public know that we are not racist or bigots. We are just a working family wanting to help our community and our country by serving those in need.
PLEASE STOP THE HATE!!
Oscar
Yeah, if they wanted to make a statement they could have said you are welcome to eat here, but I don't want the press and all the BS, eat, pay, leave. Anytime a business refuses cutomers I think it's a bad look. Not sure why they had to throw in the owners were Mormons but I thought Mormons all stuck together pretty tight and supported each other.
EDIT: ok so that is what they did, can't hate them for that.
I'll make a point to eat there. They didn't refuse service to my Presidential hopeful, they just didn't want to alienate half of a demographic. To me, it seems they made a good business decision. My food doesn't always need to be politically correct, literally.
The wife loves rellenos, and I'm taking her there to try one.
Never even heard of the place..
It is plain to see from his statement in regards to the Westword article, he is pretty heated. They also have no one doing their PR on this or that statement would have been much better. I like it though, you can see his frustration in it.
I don't blame him about not wanting to be a political stop.. sure come here for the food.. but not for a photo op. Even though I think lunch was part of the plan, they did kind of shoot themselves in the foot.
Maybe I'll have to go check the place out.
how about restaurants serve whoever the hell wants to come eat there? id serve obama no problem. the guy is a customer like anyone else. you don't think you serve tons of rabid republicans and democrats daily? shoot, the way you be apolitical is to just serve anyone with no questions asked.
yep, they couldn't risk their latino connections by appearing with Romney. Fuck them.
Actually I think it was more of an issue of they couldn't risk their leftist hipster connections (keeping in mind that the neighborhood they're in was rated the "hippest hipster neighborhood in America" by Forbes Mag).Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymonkey1111
Again, I don't blame them for not wanting to be a campaign stop, but I don't think I'd have refused either campaign flatly. The smarter way to go would have been to tell the campaign "You're welcome to eat here, but please no press or campaigning".
But hey, hindsight is 20/20 and the guy's a restauranteur, not a PR/Marketing guy.
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Originally Posted by zip
So let me get this strait. The Family does something great every year by feeding the homeless on Thanksgiving but gets smeared by people on this forum because he didn't want his business and family to be part of the political agenda? Who are the bigots again?
Hell, I may have to look the place up and go eat there, just to shake the owner's hand for having the balls to stand up and say NO, instead of grovelling at some politician's feet like so many lap dogs are dying to do.
I'm about ready to do the same... May not agree with a person's views but if they try to the right thing for the community, well...Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
If i did not eat somewhere because of their politics, i would never eat in most restaurants in Ft Collins and the surrounding areas.
Hell i'd probably starve to death, IF i did not know how to cook.
West 33rd off of Zuni. Some of the best mole I've ever eaten. Good green chili too.Quote:
Originally Posted by rondog
A good community citizen gets crucified because they don't want to play politics. Sad really.
What entails having a candidate "drop in" for a meal? Security, perimeters, food checks, staff checks, displacing the regulars, the media, the entourage, etc... I wouldn't want any part of it either.
denied over a burrito seams like bs to me...I betcha I could go in there today and they would take my money...
I laughed at the bakery that denied obama, but that was a different story.
why didn't mittens just have a staffer do it though to play devils advocate...
Like Zundfolge quoted up in #16, the owner said he didn't care who it was, he just didn't want them using his restaurant to make a campaign "appearance" with speech, filming, reporters, all that crap. He even said Romney wasn't coming there to eat, just to use the place as a prop for campaign purposes, and to hold up the owners as fine examples of Hispanic Mormons.
What I get from that quote is that Romney and his bunch wanted to USE the restaurant and it's owners, not EAT there. And the guy told 'em to piss off. I can respect that. And I love good Messican food! Too far to drive for lunch though, dammit.
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Oscar Aguirre
I (Oscar) would like to apologize to EVERY ONE WE MAY HAVE Offended. concerning Governor Mitt Romney, and the article in westword http://blogs.westword.com/cafesociet..._rosa_lind.php
We did not refuse him service yesterday THAT IS FALSE! as stated in the article when we were contacted by the campaign of Candidate Romney on August 6th, by a former mormon missionary that he would like to bring the canidate here, NOT TO EAT but; it was presented to us that he wanted to do a political stump here. Talk about our small business and how because we share our religious views with the candidate and are Latinos it would be great for him to do a campaign stop. We Did say NO because we are not Republicans, Nor are we Democrats. We will welcome any sitting President Of the United States. But, We Did not want to be a campaign stopping place….
Since this article came out we have been getting hate emails, from people across the country, people sending us death threats and people calling us telling us we are racist… that they hope we go out of business. All are welcome to join us for family meal! we may not be your cup of tea but we still welcome anybody with open arms.
We DID NOT WANT TO BE A POLITICAL STOP!!
If we do go out of business our Annual Thanksgiving Feast to the needy would end. Last year we fed 5500 meals, this year we may serve above 6000 meals. Please let the American public know that we are not racist or bigots. We are just a working family wanting to help our community and our country by serving those in need.
PLEASE STOP THE HATE!!
Oscar
They seem like good people to me. Serve thousands for free on thanksgiving. I think I'll go out of my way to eat there at least once.
As business owners they have the right to refuse service to whoever they want irregardless of the reason IMHO.
Regardless I believe they should have set conditions for the campaign before saying an outright no. I have done some coordinateions for visits of politicians in the past. The host sets the property rules and if the campaign don't agree they move on to another venue. By doing it that way you don't get slammed as bad by perception either way. As mentioned the restruants main customers may have resented what would have might appeared as a endorsement. I suspect they are not suffering to bad. Boohoo look at me I need you to come to my restruant and help me because I stood my ground. If I had a restruant I'd even serve Obama, but with my expectations to risky not too.
Hold on...
How is this any different than that dessert shop that refused to serve Joe Biden on his election trail?
It IS their right to refuse business to anyone.
And of course it is our right where we spend our money.
If I went on a "political diet" of not eating at places that I disagreed with, I'd probably lose all this extra weight I carry around.
... screw that.
They didn't refuse anyone service. They declined having a political event at their restaurant.Quote:
Originally Posted by mevshooter
They obviously Believed Differently. This is what's great about America. We are all free to believe what we want. AND run a business how we feel is best, for that venture.Quote:
Originally Posted by battle_sight_zero
I agree with you that about believing what you want, which includes running your business on your own beliefs. However you got to carefully weigh the choices. Simply stated the business did not properly address the inquiry put forth to them. When presidential campaigns come to town they often have a list of venues of interest. They sort through them they find ones that suit the needs and exposure of the campaign. If the owners rules don't work for the campaign then they move on and no harm to both parties. As others stated if they really wanted to eat there allow them to so without cameras etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by jim
Ok smart guys, how did we even know about this? If they got a call, politely refused, and hung up the phone, how would anyone even know?
Perhaps it was leaked by the family in order to bring attention to thier business? hmmm?
Ding ding visions of the Chick Filet customers recent reactions dancing through thier heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by dwalker460