What's the opinions of folks here on Denver's pit bull ban? I personally don't own a pit bull, but i have always liked medium to large dogs. And I seen pit bulls(very few), I though they were all cute and friendly.
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What's the opinions of folks here on Denver's pit bull ban? I personally don't own a pit bull, but i have always liked medium to large dogs. And I seen pit bulls(very few), I though they were all cute and friendly.
Oh man, there's a thread about this somewhere. It got pretty heated and locked down IIRC.
I didnt know there is a pit bull ban in Denver until very recently when i asked a pet store employee about pit bull pupps. And i figured that a topic like this may get too sensitive.
Yeah, it wasn't specifically about the ban, but turned toward the topic of pit bulls. I don't remember specifics because I wasn't too interested in the topic. But if you search for it you may find it. Or it may have been lost in The Great Crash of 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by UrbanWolf
I dont have the eye to fish a topic out of forum search results, i'd like to know folks opinions, and hope this wont be a flame war. I'm a dog lover myself as my username suggests, so this will be a opinion show on my part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpienads
Like an AWB... it's ridiculous. I read a few years back, more people are bit by labs and lab mixes every year than pit bulls. This is probably because there is a much larger lab population but you still don't and never will hear of a ban on labs. Blame the person, not the breed.
Yes... that's a vicious pit bull in my avatar
All dogs are loyal, loving, and protect the pack. They need proper training, love, and good care. Some dog breeds have a stigma, mostly because of what people have bred into the animal and focused training efforts to produce. Personally I think all dogs can be dangerous, or can be the best family pet ever no matter what the breed. It all depends on breeding and disposition of the specific animal.
I have owned a Mountain Feist, Chow/Lab, and an Akida, all of them fiercely loyal and all of them interpreted what was a threat to the pack differently. Dogs aren't bad owners are, unfortunately there are many greater good laws, and in urban areas they are going to exist more often than not because of lack of education, knee-jerk reaction legislation, and people behaving badly.
My Mountain Feist I kept away from small children, she was gentle and tolerant ...kids could pull on her fur all day long and she would just lick them, but when they had a high pitched giggle or laughter she'd nip.
My Akida bit my brother when we were rough housing, he knew better and I knew better. She didn't set her teeth hard, but she did break the skin.
Either one of these animals could have seriously hurt someone, and so much of what they do is instinctual and unfortunately many pit bulls or mixes out there don't have a pedigree and folks don't know if they have been bred for aggression, which changes everything. Dogs and guns are similar, the responsibility of safety falls on the owner, and we all know there are negligent owners. The issue with dogs the negligent owner creates a threat he cannot control. I don't support a pitbull ban, but as long as there are people breeding them to fight, I doubt it will be lifted anytime soon.
The owners are the key element into raising a good pitbull versus a bad pitbull. I have had 4 pits and all have been around little kids/infants and I think they are the best dogs in the world.
They are not a breed for the timid owners. The owners HAVE to be the Alpha or it will not go the way you want it. You have to be able to train a dog and to be assertive with them.
My current purebred pit is a baby. I raised him from day one to be the Beta and he knows it. The baby who is just over a year can beat the snot out of him if she wanted. He will not turn on her and he actually will get up and move because he knows he may get in trouble when I am around and she is crawling on him. She pinched his back hind leg/belly transition area, he has nipped at me for doing this...I would do this on purpose to get a reaction to correct, he looked at her and yelped and that was it. He is probably the greatest dog I have ever had. I can let him out in the front yard and he stays on the porch and if I tell him he goes in the grass and will not leave the perimeter. Training is the key with any so called vicious breed.
The one thing you have to realise about pitbulls, THEY ARE DOG AGGRESSIVE by nature and if you do not socialise them, you will have issues down the road. Mine is well socialized and have never had an issue with him or any of the other 3 I have owned.
My youngest daughter with the vicious man eating baby killer
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My Oldest daughter with Stout
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Originally Posted by RJLou
My youngest son with Stout, see the blood lust in Stouts eyes [ROFL1]
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In short, it's further proof that those who make the laws have no idea what they're doing.
Gabe, how did I know you were gonna show your child-friendly, far-from-vicious pit? Good looking family dog you got yourself. I agree that banning a breed because of a few fuckstains is stupid... hey, that sounds like AWBs... [facepalm]
Personally nothing says white trash like a pic bull (misspelled on purpose) I know it's not the breed's fault, nor is it necessarily reality. But being from the south, a pic bull says "trashy". No matter how kind, wonderful, well bred the dog may be. It may as well have 3/8" chain for a collar and be tied to a junk tire in your front yard.
ETA, HOWEVER a ban on them is ludicrous.
Are you not contradicting yourself? By that....you think banning ludicrious, yet you steroetype an entire breed based on one region of the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodburbon
When I got a pitbull, I was running 20-30 miles a week and one of the few breeds that could
standf up to the constant excersise. I grew very fond of the intelligence and their loyalty. My first pit, was about 110lbs.....an anomly,
and there was a rott or mix that was showing aggression towards me and he protected me, he didnt attack the dog up until it went for him
he was trying to blocl the dog from me and once the dog attacked Puck, it was on like donkey kong. Puck whooped up on him and the owner
knew he was in the wrong. Ever since then, I have owned pits. My next will be either a blue pit or a rhodesian ridgeback!!!!!!!
I can stereotype all I like.
I don't think legislation should be enacted upon my stereotypes, how does my opinion impact you and why should you care? I'm not so much a stereotyper as a "trend noticer" anyway. You may not fall into the trend, but a lifetime of experience says you do until you prove otherwise. A "guilty until proven innocent" attitude about certain things. Is it right? Maybe not, but It's human nature. Your life experience shapes your perception of the world around you.
There are exceptions to every breed or even species. Some animals just have bad dispositions. But that being said Bad dogs are created by bad owners. It is up to the owner to be responsible for there animals not the government in banning a certain breed
Trying not to say too much, but if you get your pit/mix from the SPCA, they may be willing to change the paperwork to list a different breed. Small concession to get the dog into a loving home.
What is this free speech thought your attempting to use as a solid defense.
I was honestly just bustin your balls. I do understand stereotypes and I have proven that stereotype wrong when folks encounter me with my pup.
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