List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

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03-10-2013, 14:50
cstone

List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

I would like this thread to be a discussion about places that: law abiding, citizens, who are legal to own and possess firearms, should not be allowed to have access to a firearm.

I have worked in many places where possession and access to firearms is severely restricted. I disagree with those restrictions and today, I cannot think of a single place in this country where good citizens should be prohibited from having their firearm.

What say you.
03-10-2013, 14:52
MarkCO

Courts and planes.
03-10-2013, 14:54
Bailey Guns
My extensive list of places where carrying of firearms should be prohibited follows:
1. I would allow private property owners to prohibit carry on their non-public private property. Any private property where the public has access excepted.
03-10-2013, 14:56
Zundfolge

Prisons and jails.

Other than those they should be allowed (and in fact encouraged) EVERYWHERE (especially airplanes).
03-10-2013, 14:56
car-15

my wife works at the nut hut here in pueblo, believe me they have no place in there.[Flower]
03-10-2013, 14:57
HBARleatherneck

I cant think of anywhere. by limiting places, you only limit law abiding Citizens. As we know non law abiding persons can carry anywhere.

and obviously carrying in jail and prison would be off limits to residents.
03-10-2013, 14:58
Byte Stryke

Please see below my suggested list of prohibited or restricted carry locations for free (wo)men.

Thank you.
03-10-2013, 15:02
Sharpienads
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

My extensive list of places where carrying of firearms should be prohibited follows:

I would allow private property owners to prohibit carry on their non-public private property. Any private property where the public has access excepted.
That's about it.
03-10-2013, 15:03
RMAC757

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Originally Posted by Zundfolge

Prisons and jails.

Other than those they should be allowed (and in fact encouraged) EVERYWHERE (especially airplanes).

With a couple of exceptions.....I'm pretty much gonna say that's a horrible idea.
03-10-2013, 15:04
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

It's actually against CRS for non-LE to carry inside any detention facility. That includes the entire facility. Front desk and all.

Some people, bounty hunters, think it doesn't apply to them. They quickly learn otherwise.

I hate those fuckers.
03-10-2013, 15:19
SA Friday

Courts
prisons and jails
Mental institutes, controlled facilities and alcohol/drug rehabs
Commercial aircraft for passengers
nuclear facilities
explosive production facilities
PL-1 assets
03-10-2013, 15:30
Goodburbon

Private property, anywhere in close contact with prohibited persons (mental hospital, Detention centers beyond a certain point.)
03-10-2013, 15:37
bogie

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

It's actually against CRS for non-LE to carry inside any detention facility. That includes the entire facility. Front desk and all.

Some people, bounty hunters, think it doesn't apply to them. They quickly learn otherwise.

I hate those fuckers.

Ever run across 'Dog' and his crew?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SA Friday

Courts
prisons and jails
Mental institutes, controlled facilities and alcohol/drug rehabs
Commercial aircraft for passengers
nuclear facilities
explosive production facilities
PL-1 assets

Sounds like a reasonable list to me.
03-10-2013, 15:39
68Charger

near an induction furnace, or other induction heating elements, for obvious safety reasons. (no metal jewelry or fillings, either)
03-10-2013, 15:43
mb504

Inside of MRI machines
Anywhere within the magnetic field of a rail gun
03-10-2013, 15:44
def90

Courtrooms and planes as well.. Jails are obvious, even the people that work there aren't armed in some areas.
03-10-2013, 15:46
Goodburbon

I should absolutely be allowed to carry on a plane
03-10-2013, 16:04
mtnhack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodburbon

I should absolutely be allowed to carry on a plane

And what happens when the guy who wants to end it decides to blow a hole in the fuselage and kills 300+ other passengers?
03-10-2013, 16:07
HBARleatherneck

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtnhack

And what happens when the guy who wants to end it decides to blow a hole in the fuselage and kills 300+ other passengers?

you must watch alot of tv. a bullet will cause a leak, but a bullet isnt goin to rip a giant hole in the plane that will kill 300 people. i am pretty sure this has been disproved everywhere but hollywood.
03-10-2013, 16:11
bogie

I'd be more worried about somebody hitting a fuel tank, hydraulic line, or control wire.
03-10-2013, 16:13
ChunkyMonkey

In the ocean..because salt water is not good for my babies.
03-10-2013, 16:19
mtnhack

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck

you must watch alot of tv. a bullet will cause a leak, but a bullet isnt goin to rip a giant hole in the plane that will kill 300 people. i am pretty sure this has been disproved everywhere but hollywood.

My bad. Should read "blows a hole in a fuel tank located in the fuselage." Or a window which would cause the whole cabin to depressurize and possibly cause severe problems. I guess catastrophy may not be gauranteed , but I still am ok with airplane prohibitions.
03-10-2013, 16:22
Sharpienads

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtnhack

My bad. Should read "blows a hole in a fuel tank located in the fuselage." Or a window which would cause the whole cabin to depressurize and possibly cause severe problems. I guess catastrophy may not be gauranteed , but I still am ok with airplane prohibitions.

I would be ok with an airline having a no firearms policy. I'm not ok with the federal government overstepping its bounds.
03-10-2013, 16:25
Byte Stryke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharpienads

I would be ok with an airline having a no firearms policy. I'm not ok with the federal government overstepping its bounds.

yeah... because no one can sneak anything onto a plane...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-mock-bomb-ne/
03-10-2013, 16:30
DireWolf

solution - only frangible ammo allowed on plane :)
03-10-2013, 16:31
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogie

Ever run across 'Dog' and his crew?

Sounds like a reasonable list to me.

Oh yeah.... Mary Ellen's is only 3-4 blocks down the road. I've seen her a lot too. She's actually really cool.
03-10-2013, 16:33
SA Friday

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte Stryke

yeah... because no one can sneak anything onto a plane...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-mock-bomb-ne/

Seriously? Your fucked if anyone does catastrophic shit on an aircraft, period. You can carry a belt fed machine gun on the bitch if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the acceleration of gravity is 9.81 meters per second. Any of you guys inking of going all hero on a plane, the only thing you can do is prevent it from being used as a guided missile.

Too much TV is right...
03-10-2013, 16:41
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SA Friday

Seriously? Your fucked if anyone does catastrophic shit on an aircraft, period. You can carry a belt fed machine gun on the bitch if you want, but that doesn't change the fact that the acceleration of gravity is 9.81 meters per second. Any of you guys inking of going all hero on a plane, the only thing you can do is prevent it from being used as a guided missile.

Too much TV is right...

You're*

:D
03-10-2013, 16:44
dwalker460

Once upon a time, you could carry right on a plane. Never a single incident. Then some wise ass decided to restrict firearms to checked bacggage. Shocker, the airlines became targets for terrorists and hostage takers.

NOWHERE the public is not allowed to carry firearms is safe, not even Military bases or police stations, or jails. Therefore, there should be nowhere a law-abiding citizen should have to surrender thier weapon.
03-10-2013, 16:46
SA Friday

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

You're*

:D

I'm on the iPad. It makes weird spelling changes sometimes and I type 80+ words a minute so it can't always keep up.
03-10-2013, 16:49
Bailey Guns

Quote:

Originally Posted by DireWolf

solution - only frangible ammo allowed on plane :)

No...the obvious solution is to make hijacking illegal. Problem solved.
03-10-2013, 16:53
DireWolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bailey Guns

No...the obvious solution is to make hijacking illegal. Problem solved.

Touché!
03-10-2013, 16:53
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwalker460

Once upon a time, you could carry right on a plane. Never a single incident. Then some wise ass decided to restrict firearms to checked bacggage. Shocker, the airlines became targets for terrorists and hostage takers.

NOWHERE the public is not allowed to carry firearms is safe, not even Military bases or police stations, or jails. Therefore, there should be nowhere a law-abiding citizen should have to surrender thier weapon.

I'm going to disagree with you only because you put "jails" in there.

Come to my jail with a gun and you'll gain a very pretty set of silver bracelets.

Also, police stations are very safe. Just so ya know...
03-10-2013, 17:00
dwalker460

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I'm going to disagree with you only because you put "jails" in there.

Come to my jail with a gun and you'll gain a very pretty set of silver bracelets.

Also, police stations are very safe. Just so ya know...

People die in jails and police stations, so not really sure of your definition of "safe".
03-10-2013, 17:02
SA Friday

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwalker460

People die in jails and police stations, so not really sure of your definition of "safe".

Bet more people die in their beds than in jails. Just saying, bad logic.
03-10-2013, 17:05
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwalker460

People die in jails and police stations, so not really sure of your definition of "safe".

I'd take the 28+ cops at the jail with guns over one normal guy with a gun any day of the week.

The people that die in jails don't die in the front lobby.

You're making an argument you can't win with me. You've probably never spent a significant amount of time in a jail or police station. That's cool. I understand.

But don't try to fake that you know what you're talking about. Because you don't.
03-10-2013, 17:05
ChunkyMonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I'm going to disagree with you only because you put "jails" in there.

Come to my jail with a gun and you'll gain a very pretty set of silver bracelets.

Also, police stations are very safe. Just so ya know...

Illusion my friend...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2LfqrYbhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2yfx80T1g
03-10-2013, 17:09
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

Illusion my friend...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2LfqrYbhw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2yfx80T1g

I've seen both of those. The first one would have happened anywhere. No matter who had a gun.

No one could have stopped that guy before he killed people. No one.

The second one is... Well, let's just say there were mistakes made that day.

I actually use the second video at work as a training aid.

The second video is also a horrible example to use in this discussion as there are no firearms allowed in the secure areas of the jail. No matter who you are.
03-10-2013, 17:12
ChunkyMonkey

Quote:

Originally Posted by JM Ver. 2.0

I've seen both of those. The first one would have happened anywhere. No matter who had a gun.

The second one is... Well, let's just say there were mistakes made that day.

I actually use the second video at work as a training aid.

The second video is also a horrible example to use in this discussion as there are no firearms allowed in the secure areas of the jail. No matter who you are.

Yes, you answered it yourself... it can happen anywhere including a police station, and mistake do happen even within highly trained and secured area -- Hence the quoted 'unsafe' despite being within Jail and Police station. Attack happened within fort hood for crying outloud. As long as there is other human being, you should always be on alert. Stay safe!
03-10-2013, 17:15
JM Ver. 2.0

Re: List of places no one should be allowed to possess a firearm:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey

Yes, you answered it yourself... it can happen anywhere including a police station, and mistake do happen even within highly trained and secured area -- Hence the quoted 'unsafe' despite being within Jail and Police station. Attack happened within fort hood for crying outloud. As long as there is other human being, you should always be on alert. Stay safe!

Exactly. Fort Hood is a bad example too. That was more a friendly fire type incident. But that's a different discussion.

The fact that none of the people in the first video died is pretty amazing. But still. Nothing would have stopped that guy.

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