Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
Illusion my friend...



I've seen both of those. The first one would have happened anywhere. No matter who had a gun.

No one could have stopped that guy before he killed people. No one.

The second one is... Well, let's just say there were mistakes made that day.

I actually use the second video at work as a training aid.

The second video is also a horrible example to use in this discussion as there are no firearms allowed in the secure areas of the jail. No matter who you are.