Do you oppose Senate Bill 13-195? If so, why?

[Sharpienads]

FFS. We've beaten this topic to death in this forum. Here's the bottom line as I see it:

No one is arguing against permit holders obtaining voluntary training to improve their knowledge and skills. The argument is between those who want the training to be voluntary and those who want mandated training standards set by bureaucrats like Evie Hudak and John Morse and Rhonda Fields.

If you are in favor of gov't mandated training standards for people who want to defend themselves then, in my opinion, you are part of the problem we're facing here in Colorado and in the nation with gov't infringing more and more on our personal liberties. I'd suggest the democrat party is looking for folks like you.

Permit holders are not the problem regardless of the anecdotal stories of "I saw someone at the range handling a gun and they were really scary. I wish the gov't would save me from them". If you want the gov't to take care of you because personal freedom is dangerous and scary, the democrat party is looking for you.

What are you going to do when you can't pass the gov't standards? Oh, that's right. You'll have the gov't to protect you. If that's what you want, the democrat party is looking for you.

If you can't grasp the simple concept that personal freedom and liberty carries a price, if you aren't willing to pay the price, if you don't think others are worthy of the freedoms and liberties laid out in our Constitution, the democrat party is looking for you.

Goddamn, some of you people piss me off the way you talk outta both sides of your mouth about gun rights and freedom.

Whoa, somebody is grumpy this morning.

[O2HeN2]

Whoa, somebody is grumpy this morning.

He was spot on. I get the feeling that most of these "training is a good thing" folks are wet behind the ears, either being young or new to guns.

Once you've been in the game for a couple of decades, you get a real clear picture of what's happening.

And if you've been in the game for a awhile and still think this way, you're either lining your pockets at the expense of a right or you're just ignorant. The good news is ignorance can be cured, stupidity is forever.

O2

[cysoto]

Once you've been in the game for a couple of decades, you get a real clear picture of what's happening.

Yet many of the people whom I see at the range being careless around guns are precisely those who claim they have been shooting all their lives.

[Bailey Guns]

Whoa, somebody is grumpy this morning.

Yep. I tend to get that way when people start talking about how infringement upon the rights of others is a good thing.