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    Who cares. Doesnt affect anyone other than the party involved and they get the same rights as everyone else. Now they need to realize what the government is doing to all citizens and get behind ( not literally) those groups and support them!
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    Good. One less issue the left will have to rally people to their side.

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    New campaign slogan to get gays to help us out, "An armed homosexual is better than a dead one!"

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    in case anybody is curious, you don't need a judge or a priest or anybody to marry you in CO. You can pretty much just have the two people sign the marriage certificate and boom-married!
    My wife and I had a friend marry us. He is one of those naturally gifted funny people who can hold an audience well!

    As for my opinion on this matter...eh don't care. Heterosexual married couples have screwed up the institution of mariage well enough at this point. Let homosexual couples have at it. It will still be just as screwed up as it was yesterday.
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    From a purely constitutional perspective, it is a joke. First, why should "married" people have any financial benefit over the unmarried? They should not and marriage tax benefits create two classes of people...unconstitutional. Second, I can grant any person I want Power of attorney for any variety of issues. Signing a "Civil Union" gives no more "joint property" benefit than drafting a contract did before. Three pieces of paper gave my wife MORE legal authority of her fathers medical information and decisions than our marriage grants her, and it was a HECK of a lot cheaper. So, instead of making everyone equal under the tax code, we added a segment (small) to a protected class. We should have gone the other way. I know a same sex couple who were adamantly opposed to this law. They put all their property and financial vehilces in trust, are both members of the trust and signed medical directives. They have more tax advantage and if they dissolve their "trust" the details are spelled out and they won't end up clogging up divorce court.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Who cares. Doesnt affect anyone other than the party involved and they get the same rights as everyone else. Now they need to realize what the government is doing to all citizens and get behind ( not literally) those groups and support them!
    We should all care, because the dumbass Republicans in office last year had a huge fillibuster to block this bill last year. That stunt left such a bad taste in everyone's mouth that they all got booted out of office and now we have 5 gun control measures. Besides that, I totally agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    We should all care, because the dumbass Republicans in office last year had a huge fillibuster to block this bill last year. That stunt left such a bad taste in everyone's mouth that they all got booted out of office and now we have 5 gun control measures. Besides that, I totally agree with you.
    i completely agree.

    Republicans lost more than one seat over what... a feel-good law. It changed nothing, represented little to nothing, and cost nothing to sign off on. So stupid and so easy to avoid the fallout.
    Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be.

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    If I remember correctly, doesn't Colorado have common law marriage where if you live with someone for more than 7 years and others know then by default you end up married?

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    We should all care, because the dumbass Republicans in office last year had a huge fillibuster to block this bill last year. That stunt left such a bad taste in everyone's mouth that they all got booted out of office and now we have 5 gun control measures. Besides that, I totally agree with you.
    Yep. This is the crux of the issue. I'm completely fine with gay marriage/civil unions/whatever you want to call it. I'm also fine with legalized weed.

    Suffice it to say, I think most people in Colorado, even those who may dislike gay marriage or pot, are probably willing to tolerate these things to one extent or another. Furthermore, given that the evangelical movement has been somewhat on the wane in the last couple of years, it seems very clear to me that the Republican party has already reaped any gains to be had from beating the drum for social issues in order to get votes and contributions from the God Squad, while essentially alienating any middle-of-the-road moderates or Colorado libertarians.


    Now the question, to get us back on topic, is -- do two partners in a recognized 'civil union' get the same benefits for 'transfer' under our new Universal Background Check law?
    When I talked with Kent Lambert, I brought this issue up. He said that once civil unions pass, all of the language in Colorado law would be changed to recognize civil unions, which meant that, as far as he understood it, a gay couple wouldn't have to worry about engaging in an illegal transfer.
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    If there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to buy a gun, there's nothing wrong with having to show an ID to vote.

    For legal reasons, that's a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin View Post
    Yep. This is the crux of the issue. I'm completely fine with gay marriage/civil unions/whatever you want to call it. I'm also fine with legalized weed.

    Suffice it to say, I think most people in Colorado, even those who may dislike gay marriage or pot, are probably willing to tolerate these things to one extent or another. Furthermore, given that the evangelical movement has been somewhat on the wane in the last couple of years, it seems very clear to me that the Republican party has already reaped any gains to be had from beating the drum for social issues in order to get votes and contributions from the God Squad, while essentially alienating any middle-of-the-road moderates or Colorado libertarians.
    Yup, we're on the same page. I don't care if you want to sleep with someone of the opposite sex or same sex, I don't care if you want to hit that bong as long as you're not being disruptive to others. As long as we can all be Americans and keep our Constitutional right, that's all that matters.

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