White Priveldge Confrence

[Teufelhund]

This man says he can't get hired and is demanding government assistance until someone offers him a fair salary.

Hot Topic isn't hiring?

[Ronin13]

Yes, Ronin said that on page one.

Negative... I didn't say that. I said I coined a phrase to describe a section of the immigrant population.

In other news, America at risk of being surpassed by China in reading comprehension.

[Rucker61]

Bullshit. I thought I read that Douglas County schools were the lowest funded schools in the state.

Are you missing the "in general" portion of my statement?

[Aloha_Shooter]

Why are the women and minorities given preference? Because, in general, they can't compete on an equal footing.

I was going to try to read through the entire thread before responding to this but just couldn't do it. The level of cranium-in-gluteus-maximus of this statement is just unimaginable. First off, who the hell are you to say we can't compete on an equal footing? I WILL compete on an equal footing on anything that matters to me -- so will tons of women and minorities I've met over the years. What these preferences do is create attitudes that we can't compete and those attitudes are what hurt both minorities and majorities. These preferences create a self-fulfilling prophecy when people stop trying to compete and instead fall back into accepting, nay demanding preferences and offsets.

When I was applying to college, I got letters from the "Minority Recruitment Chairman" from several universities -- I wrote back saying I was an American and that wasn't a minority the last time I looked so they could recruit me as a student or not at all. Funny thing was that I'd have been dinged harder than a white guy if I'd even been interested in applying to a UC-system school since their internal racial quotas said they had too many Asians. It didn't matter if your ancestors had migrated over in the 19th century or if they'd come over in a boat fleeing South Vietnam or the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s.

You want data? I remember studies in the 1990s that showed people given "group preferences" for college admission had a significantly lower rate of graduation (like 25-50% lower). The conclusions were that even the bright ones had gotten so used to being given a leg up that many didn't know how to produce.

The preference systems put in place by well-meaning but logically-bankrupt and mentally addled people in the 60s and 70s are part of the reason behind the American decline in the 90s and 00s. Garbage like that is why Michelle Robinson could graduate from an Ivy League institution with one of the most addle-pated theses I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Barry Soetoro may well have received preferences for college admission and financial aid despite a privileged background that included graduation from the most elite prestigious school in his state.

[generalmeow]

Are you missing the "in general" portion of my statement?

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/04/the-myth-of-racial-disparities-in-public-school-funding

[Ronin13]

I was going to try to read through the entire thread before responding to this but just couldn't do it. The level of cranium-in-gluteus-maximus of this statement is just unimaginable. First off, who the hell are you to say we can't compete on an equal footing? I WILL compete on an equal footing on anything that matters to me -- so will tons of women and minorities I've met over the years. What these preferences do is create attitudes that we can't compete and those attitudes are what hurt both minorities and majorities. These preferences create a self-fulfilling prophecy when people stop trying to compete and instead fall back into accepting, nay demanding preferences and offsets.

When I was applying to college, I got letters from the "Minority Recruitment Chairman" from several universities -- I wrote back saying I was an American and that wasn't a minority the last time I looked so they could recruit me as a student or not at all. Funny thing was that I'd have been dinged harder than a white guy if I'd even been interested in applying to a UC-system school since their internal racial quotas said they had too many Asians. It didn't matter if your ancestors had migrated over in the 19th century or if they'd come over in a boat fleeing South Vietnam or the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s.

You want data? I remember studies in the 1990s that showed people given "group preferences" for college admission had a significantly lower rate of graduation (like 25-50% lower). The conclusions were that even the bright ones had gotten so used to being given a leg up that many didn't know how to produce.

The preference systems put in place by well-meaning but logically-bankrupt and mentally addled people in the 60s and 70s are part of the reason behind the American decline in the 90s and 00s. Garbage like that is why Michelle Robinson could graduate from an Ivy League institution with one of the most addle-pated theses I've ever had the displeasure of reading. Barry Soetoro may well have received preferences for college admission and financial aid despite a privileged background that included graduation from the most elite prestigious school in his state.

Seriously, Aloha- thank you for that, that was very well put and very interesting to read- just basically reaffirmed my beliefs on the matter! At no point in that post did I disagree.

[Clint45]

This man says he can't get hired and is demanding government assistance until someone offers him a fair salary.

If he has no marketable skills, he'll be lucky to get a minimum wage job pumping gas or sweeping floors. Salary? I bet he wants benefits and paid sick time and paid vacation too.