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    For all around awsomeness I would say Glock 19. But HK, XD, Walther, FN, Smith are all perfectly good options depending on your philosophy of use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloccw View Post
    XD- not reliable in all condition True, I had multiple malfunctions in POST academy with my XD-45 until I stopped limp wristing it, even after that if you are shooting from an unconventional shooting position you could induce a malfunction. FN-can't get replacement parts & too scarce Yeah, mags? you want those....too bad Beretta- Really? Too many issues to name here Ha, I would never buy a plastic Beretta, their 92 series is good but their new stuff is not up to par. Glocks have proven themselves for years, are widely available, simple to use/fix/replace, and are inexpensive. Saying all polymer guns are equal is as retarded as saying all metal guns are equal these days.

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    I've seen torture tests on Glocks, XDs, and M&P's I'd say all are solid guns. I personally love that Springfield Armory has a fully supported Chambers which makes me think they might be stronger, but I have heard that glocks are amazing too. It's a toss up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osok-308 View Post
    I've seen torture tests on Glocks, XDs, and M&P's I'd say all are solid guns. I personally love that Springfield Armory has a fully supported Chambers which makes me think they might be stronger, but I have heard that glocks are amazing too. It's a toss up?
    I have shot all three and would say between the Glocks, M&Ps and XDs it comes down to what fits your hand better and personal preference.

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    Originally Posted by coloccw
    XD- not reliable in all condition True, I had multiple malfunctions in POST academy with my XD-45 until I stopped limp wristing it, even after that if you are shooting from an unconventional shooting position you could induce a malfunction. FN-can't get replacement parts & too scarce Yeah, mags? you want those....too bad Beretta- Really? Too many issues to name here Ha, I would never buy a plastic Beretta, their 92 series is good but their new stuff is not up to par. Glocks have proven themselves for years, are widely available, simple to use/fix/replace, and are inexpensive. Saying all polymer guns are equal is as retarded as saying all metal guns are equal these days.
    I have never had any of my springfield models, and I've owned compacts, service models, tacticals, and XDMs in assorted calibers. I've shot a variety of ammunition in all of them. And I've never had a single stovepipe, failure to extract/ eject, fire, or feed. What unconventional shooting position has ever caused a malf? I'd personally like to know so I can shoot from that position myself.

    Here are a couple links to some torture tests in case you wanted to read up on them.

    http://theprepared.com/content/view/90//administrator/

    http://www.weaponscache.com/forum/pi...ture-test.html

    I have shot all three and would say between the Glocks, M&Ps and XDs it comes down to what fits your hand better and personal preference.
    I would also have to agree with that.
    Last edited by osok-308; 03-15-2013 at 16:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisC View Post
    I have shot all three and would say between the Glocks, M&Ps and XDs it comes down to what fits your hand better and personal preference.
    The title of the thread isn't "What do you feel is best for you." What does personal preference have to do with survival? I don't like Glocks, but they work every time. If I had my preference, I would have a rifle.

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    Stupid newbie question..... What's a Glock?
    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Haw haw haw?..

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    Thousands and thousands of rounds on my glocks in classes, ran fine with mags full of water, mud, dirt and sand. I trust them 100%.

    M&P is a nice gun, but I can't stand that hinged trigger. Drives me crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osok-308 View Post
    I have never had any of my springfield models, and I've owned compacts, service models, tacticals, and XDMs in assorted calibers. I've shot a variety of ammunition in all of them. And I've never had a single stovepipe, failure to extract/ eject, fire, or feed. What unconventional shooting position has ever caused a malf? I'd personally like to know so I can shoot from that position myself.

    Here are a couple links to some torture tests in case you wanted to read up on them.

    http://theprepared.com/content/view/90//administrator/

    http://www.weaponscache.com/forum/pi...ture-test.html



    I would also have to agree with that.

    Mainly shooting around barricades, off hand, one hand pretty much anything that reduces wrist strength. I was just my data point, and me as a person, YMMV. If you never had issues then that is awesome, keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strm_trpr View Post
    Mainly shooting around barricades, off hand, one hand pretty much anything that reduces wrist strength. I was just my data point, and me as a person, YMMV. If you never had issues then that is awesome, keep it up.
    That's a wrist tension issue, not a firearm or barricade one. Easy fix.

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