For those of you on FB...

[Jer]

I'm not arguing for "gay marriage"... I'm arguing equal rights for homosexual couples and heterosexual couples. You are arguing NO rights for heterosexual couples and homosexual couples. While there is a connection... it still seems like apples and oranges to me.

You're talking about protections that are offered to each individual as if they're somehow different because you're married. So what those things have to do with this conversation is beyond me. All that's doing is confusing the discussion. I'm talking about tax breaks and incentives the government gives to married couples... just for being married. These help to create the inequality between civil unions and marriages. Homosexuals want equal rights because as it stands married couples get a LOT of incentives from the government simply for being married that they are not entitled to. My point is why in the FUCK should the government give credits, breaks and incentives to married couples in the first place? Start the process of equality by taking away these breaks and incentives for ALL couples that single people have to cover. It's legislating morality which means we ALL lose in the long run. How hard of a concept is that to understand?

The state has NO right to meddle in personal affairs to include marriage/civil unions or whatever label you want to assign.

[brobar]

You and I are having two different conversations. That is where your confusion is coming in to play why some of these things are, as you put it, beyond you. We can create a new thread and discuss government's role in taxation, subsidies, welfare, loans, the national debt, fiscal cliffs, deficits, etc... if you would like. You've taken this conversation off course so many times though... I don't know if I have the energy to join you in that conversation just yet... it is exhausting just trying to stay on track in this thread. hehe

[Logan]

[NightCat]

..What I've been seeing on the news is that this shit all came from some lady who was "married" to her female partner in Canada, and when her partner finally bit the dust the lady was pissed she had to be tax on the inheritance that she was left.....and yet if she was considered "Married" by the US that she wouldn't have had to pay the tax or would've paid less tax on it.


So really........This has fuck all nothing to do with equality, but as already mentioned, a special exception. You could "marry" anybody to get a tax write off or whatever the reason may be, I'm not religious nut job, I'm not even a man of religion at all, so dont peg me as one of those types.

I'm with Jer on this one, Keep the Government out of Marriage.

[Bailey Guns]

I'm all like, "Yeah. Me, too!"

[davsel]

I thought gays already had the same "rights" as normal people. They are legally able to marry anyone they wish - as long as it is someone from the opposite sex who is of age and consents. Isn't this exactly the same criteria for heterosexuals? Seems equal to me.

[Jer]

I thought gays already had the same "rights" as normal people. They are legally able to marry anyone they wish - as long as it is someone from the opposite sex who is of age and consents. Isn't this exactly the same criteria for heterosexuals? Seems equal to me.

Semantics. Straights are allowed to marry those that they love and gays are not. So, not exactly the same, no. Kind of a big deal if you look at it from that perspective.

[davsel]

Semantics. Straights are allowed to marry those that they love and gays are not. So, not exactly the same, no. Kind of a big deal if you look at it from that perspective.

I love my dog. I have sex with my dog. I want to marry my dog. You won't let me. I am being oppressed. I want equal rights!
Sounds sick and stupid, right?

Let's break it down:
It has nothing to do with love. It has everything to do with sticking a finger in the eye of normal people everywhere. You want a man who crams his dick in another man's ass to feel proud of that? You want to pat him on the back and let him know you are ok with that; that you support his sucking on another man's dick? Not me brother.

[Bailey Guns]

There are also laws against straight people marrying certain family members, people under a certain age, etc... So I don't think the argument is as simple as "straights are allowed to marry those that they love and gays are not".

I don't think the federal government should have any part in this either way.

[Jer]

I love my dog. I have sex with my dog. I want to marry my dog. You won't let me. I am being oppressed. I want equal rights!
Sounds sick and stupid, right?

Your dog doesn't have human rights. Nice try but this 'I want to marry my barnyard animal' argument has zero credibility.

Let's break it down:
It has nothing to do with love. It has everything to do with sticking a finger in the eye of normal people everywhere. You want a man who crams his dick in another man's ass to feel proud of that? You want to pat him on the back and let him know you are ok with that; that you support his sucking on another man's dick? Not me brother.

Who are you to determine how others love? The fact that you feel the need to break it down to vulgarity leads me to question your real reasons for persecuting this lifestyle. You claim to know what's normal while your supposedly straight mind goes to graphic detail on what homosexuals do behind closed doors? Yeah, that's normal alright. If you're considering yourself 'normal people everywhere' then I want no part of it.