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    It already died due to an amendment that passed in the Senate.
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    Just saw this
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    Quote Originally Posted by kraven251 View Post
    It already died due to an amendment that passed in the Senate.
    The email appeared to be current and alluded to action next week by Obama and the senate. Can you post a source for this ammendment? I'm sure others are as concerned as I am.
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    Thank you!
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    Well. Treaties have no legal status unless the Senate "ratifies" it, which means they pass laws to make the terms of the treaty the law of the land. Those laws are still subject to constitutional precedence, which is a long way of saying the constitution still trumps treaties. There's actually some case law for this.

    That doesn't mean our elected officials don't ignore the constitution any time it is convenient to do so, but up until some bright person submits an amendment to repeal the inconvenient bits or the SCOTUS decides to repeal them from the bench they will continue to exist inconveniently.

    I do find it just this side of hilarious that the gun lobby is making arguments that the ACLU would otherwise approve under different circumstances, especially given "Card Carrying Liberal" was a catch phrase in a presidential election not so long ago to denigrate the candidate who was a member. I'm just too easily amused.

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    Said it in the other thread and I will say it again here-

    Anyone who supports such a Treaty commits Treason against the United States Of America and it is every citizens duty to bring these traitors to justice. The punishment in this case is death.

    Ratification of this treaty would bring about Civil War in this country.... again.

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    It was my understanding that the senate OR the president could ratifiy or reject a treaty and if signed and no action was taken to reject it would become binding.
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