458 SOCOM AR-15

[Dave]

Actually I'm putting my order in today. Going to see if I can use the birthday defense. Plus, my grandmother is either going senile or thinks she is going to die soon. My usual birthday present of a $50 gift card for amazon or ebay turned into a $500 check. She is 94, but when I saw her last month she was still in great health.

[babirl]

Actually I'm putting my order in today. Going to see if I can use the birthday defense. Plus, my grandmother is either going senile or thinks she is going to die soon. My usual birthday present of a $50 gift card for amazon or ebay turned into a $500 check. She is 94, but when I saw her last month she was still in great health.

You know updates are expected... Not on the wife, she'll get over it (err, MAYBE), still hope and pray grandma is OK, but what's up w/ your 458S order?



Could be months from what I'm hearing even pre-panic/popularization, As I recall, I waited nearly 4-months for a basic RRA; on the other hand, can't remember if I bought in another panic period?


No matter, you'll love 458S and your "custom" 7-round/10-round mags will be just fine... They'll likely need some trimming/Dremel love if they're PMAGs.

B2

I'm thinking about adding a custom 1895 Marlin Guide Gun 45/70, .45-70 just because I can share projectiles and always wanted one... SShhh. DON'T tell CINCWIFE!

[Dave]

I've called RRA three times and each time I get told it's been bumped another 2 months. Biggest problem is BCG's, since they are waiting on a supplier for those they are making uppers and barrels for other calibers until they have a confirmation. One did mention that the uppers are being made and the barrel stock is on hand, but no set date on bolts. I'm getting a lower and another .458 upper from 10mm Man's Double D Armory in the industry partner section here.

Wife is over it, I took a temp job with a friend of hers that helped pay it off. Grandma is ok, but since she had to leave her house to move into a retirement community she's been down a bit, but getting better since she adjusted.

[babirl]

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Wife is over it, I took a temp job with a friend of hers that helped pay it off. Grandma is ok, but since she had to leave her house to move into a retirement community she's been down a bit, but getting better since she adjusted.

Glad to hear and I believe my oldest living/now buried predecessor was 98... Wow, not sure I'll make 70, err even 60 at this rate...

As you well know, the whole industry is insane much less w/ these variants...

In the meantime, please ensure you get approved @ 458 Forums during your wait: http://458socomforums.com (Marty 'designer' has been hit/miss but that's the no-bull best place to get real answers/no trolls for 458S... Worth the wait.)

Only other thing I know is keep checking w/ http://www.sbrammunition.com/ (Marty approved) and Wilson Combat.

[Dave]

I've been trolling the 458 forums, getting some info and seeing where if at all ammo is. I'm on backorder at Wilson for some 300gr rounds. I did pick up some projectiles from MidwayUSA, 300gr lead free for the socom and some 45-70 350gr. Haven't found any brass though. I still need a press of my own as I have to go to a coworker of my wife's house to reload. So far it's a good trade, homebrews for reloading lessons. All I have to provide is dies and shell holders if he doesn't have them, and materials since so far he only reloads pistol rounds. But he just got a DPMS AR-15, so now he's going to want to do .223. I'll get him into upper swapping soon.

[spyder]

Huh... Well, I stepped in here a little too late... I just got done building a buddy a 458 upper. You can also use standard 30 round mags from your AR, you may have to modify them, but you can. In my endeavors, if you shoot the pointy bullets (<I'm so articulate), then most AR mags will work. I know that Pmags, and standard GI mags will with them anyway. If you use the flat nose shorty's, you want to put a slight rounded bevel in on the front of the mag. It is also nice to have the correct followers installed, although normal AR followers also work without a problem. Just my $.02. P.S. I have a nice new reamer, and gauges to build more........ he..... hehe.. heheheheheheheheh.....................

[babirl]

Huh... Well, I stepped in here a little too late... I just got done building a buddy a 458 upper. You can also use standard 30 round mags from your AR, you may have to modify them, but you can. In my endeavors, if you shoot the pointy bullets (<I'm so articulate), then most AR mags will work. I know that Pmags, and standard GI mags will with them anyway. If you use the flat nose shorty's, you want to put a slight rounded bevel in on the front of the mag. It is also nice to have the correct followers installed, although normal AR followers also work without a problem. Just my $.02. P.S. I have a nice new reamer, and gauges to build more........ he..... hehe.. heheheheheheheheh.....................

WTF and yeah?

I'd say your credentials are somewhat important after the "Red Jacket" 458S clown show... Trolling or are you Marty/Teppo approved much less even interested in the 458S/big bore ARs? Heck, even Rumore could vouch for you...

B2

Yeah, "we" have the mag thing figured out...

[spyder]

WTF and yeah?

I'd say your credentials are somewhat important after the "Red Jacket" 458S clown show... Trolling or are you Marty/Teppo approved much less even interested in the 458S/big bore ARs? Heck, even Rumore could vouch for you...

Huh? I've built three... and by built I mean profiled, chambered, threaded, mounted the barrel extension, modified the extension, port opening, bolt face, and extractor, bla bla bla...actually... that is almost all there is to it...

Who is rumore?

[babirl]

Huh? I've built three... and by built I mean profiled, chambered, threaded, mounted the barrel extension, modified the extension, port opening, bolt face, and extractor, bla bla bla...actually... that is almost all there is to it...

Who is rumore?

spyder,

Apologies if I came across as a complete A-hole and not trying to be one... You obviously have superb machining/gunsmith skills, but what is your "458S knowledge" (in a good/honest way)?

Marty obviously still has interest in his "baby" and Tony Rumore/Tromix helped him prototype:

- http://www.teppojutsu.com/ (See 458 SOCOM FAQ #1; yes, his web skills suck)
- http://www.tromix.com/

Sadly, there's now a LOT of fiction vs. fact out there, especially after the on-going Red Jacket joke that put the 458S on a "national-level" awareness. 458S is one freakin' awesome AR variant and I'd hate to see anybody get screwed, much less screw it up or even hurt! (See my 6.8 SPC II thread for how bad things can go... )

As you obviously know, the 458S is quite versatile but you also have to be a bit pressure-sensitive reloading, ESPECIALLY with the SOCOM TTSX... Yeah, I helped fund that endeavor.

I do hope you'll come join us on the 458 SOCOM Forum: http://www.458socomforums.com/ (Sadly, was hacked/crashed just as hard, maybe harder than this forum a couple of years ago/still recovering but there are a LOT of WAY more knowledgeable folks than me over there... Post up your work and I bet Marty will "approve" you too. )

Once again, no offense intended... My interest is keeping the 458S "pure" as Marty intended when he handed his mass production design to RRA, BW shot some hogs got involved eventually just like 6.8 and finally Teppo tooling was sent off to SBR/Buddy while he's out of country...



B2

[SideShow Bob]

Wow, though I was going to have to break out some popcorn and pull up a comfortable chair and watch the fireworks....

Too bad we are so widely spread out across the state, or we could have a 458S meet & shoot.
there seems to be a cornucopia of knowledge for this platform here, and I would love to pick a few brains while sending large chunks of lead down range.