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    Quote Originally Posted by centrarchidae View Post
    Senator Hudak won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Lang Sias. Senator Morse won by fewer votes than the L took from (R) Owen Hill. In both cases, the Dem margin of victory was roughly a quarter of the votes taken by the L candidate.

    Or I'm smoking crack and only one of those two is a senator.

    And one Democrat (Tochtrop, SD24) who voted against 1224 anyway.

    Flip two votes besides Tochtrop and 1224 would have failed by one.

    And Morse wouldn't be in a position to set the state senate's agenda and change the hearing rules if he had been defeated.
    Apologies for calling BS.

    I forgot the Dems(there were actually 2, Cheri Jahn and Lois Tochtrop) who voted against 1224. In which case only one of the the two races you reference would need to have been won.

    I will not consider the Morse race as it was more than 2 yrs ago and there has been plenty of time to do something about it(as in recall). Also, Dems had majority in Senate, even if Morse had lost, a Dem would be president of Senate and rules shenanigans would be going on. The second race I was referencing was in the house.

    I also question the assertion Libertarian votes are majority take aways from Repubs. I don't think data supporting such is quality data. While I rarely get to vote for Libertarians(no candidates in races in my districts), I have turned many more Dems to Libertarian than Repubs.

    I think laying blame off on Libertarians is lame and hurts Republican voters(not politicos) by not holding the Colorado Republican party responsible for its very poor performance as a political party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buffalobo View Post

    I think laying blame off on Libertarians is lame and hurts Republican voters(not politicos) by not holding the Colorado Republican party responsible for its very poor performance as a political party.

    Bingo. If the Republican party were actually conservative and not attempted religious authoritarian, you might stand a chance to bring people like me back in. They continue with more of the status quo, making deals, compromising my freedoms, further imposing government into my life...and I'll continue pulling that handle for anything but D or R hoping that eventually the damn thing flushes.

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