Son's attendance at a concealed course uncovered these "facts" I was not aware of:

[spongejosh]

(1) (a) A permit to carry a concealed handgun authorizes the permittee to carry a concealed handgun in all areas of the state, except as specifically limited in this section. A permit does not authorize the permittee to use a handgun in a manner that would violate a provision of state law. A local government does not have authority to adopt or enforce an ordinance or resolution that would conflict with any provision of this part 2.

(b) A peace officer may temporarily disarm a permittee, incident to a lawful stop of the permittee. The peace officer shall return the handgun to the permittee prior to discharging the permittee from the scene.

(2) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law.

(3) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvements erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school; except that:

(a) A permittee may have a handgun on the real property of the public school so long as the handgun remains in his or her vehicle and, if the permittee is not in the vehicle, the handgun is in a compartment within the vehicle and the vehicle is locked;

(b) A permittee who is employed or retained by contract by a school district as a school security officer may carry a concealed handgun onto the real property, or into any improvement erected thereon, of a public elementary, middle, junior high, or high school while the permittee is on duty;

(c) A permittee may carry a concealed handgun on undeveloped real property owned by a school district that is used for hunting or other shooting sports.

(4) A permit issued pursuant to this part 2 does not authorize a person to carry a concealed handgun into a public building at which:

(a) Security personnel and electronic weapons screening devices are permanently in place at each entrance to the building;

(b) Security personnel electronically screen each person who enters the building to determine whether the person is carrying a weapon of any kind; and

(c) Security personnel require each person who is carrying a weapon of any kind to leave the weapon in possession of security personnel while the person is in the building.

(5) Nothing in this part 2 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the existing rights of a private property owner, private tenant, private employer, or private business entity.

(6) The provisions of this section apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.

I don't see elevators or RTD in that CRS.

[keylay31]

Time for my two cents.

You cannot carry in the State of Colorado:
*in an elevator Not true
*on an escalator Not true
*in a post office or any building where a federal employee works, including anywhere on most indian reservation. Pretty much true, though the law does not read like this. It's: federal building, k12 (in your car is ok), or metal detectors present.
*on an RTD bus I'm fairly certain this is not true. But not 100% certain.
*you can't carry a gun into a bar (but if food is served and 50% or more of the sales are food it's ok) While true in other states, not true in Colorado.
*you cannot carry in certain portions of the national forest Not true in general.
*if you take any prescription drugs you cannot carry Not true.

If you don't have a permit you cannot carry a gun in the car unless it's exposed? Not true.

I have a ccw and some of these facts were surprising to me. Help me out here, I don't want to break any laws by using the escalator at the mall.
Bob

[Great-Kazoo]

I suggest the "Instructor" update the web page

• We believe … in continuous research. We constantly update and improve our classes.
  
• We believe … new research can not only protect your family physically, but shield you from arrest, prosecution, lawsuits, criminal reprisals, and post-traumatic stress.
• We believe … you should leave with more than just a diploma! You should leave with peace of mind, and with knowledge that can save your life

Almost every other instructor here, has already voiced their "concerns" and some have posted CRS info. My issue is the highlighted ones. ESPECIALLY Shielding you from LAWSUITS.
We all (hopefully) know it's going to cost you an easy $20K [easy] IF you need to use deadly force to Stop a THREAT.
Saying their class can shield you from a lawsuit, especially in today's Litigious Society is ludicrous at best. Irresponsible across the board.
NO ONE can "Shield" you from anything. We as instructors can only hope our "instruction" will get you to practice more, seek more classes and knowledge, get you more involved than you are now with firearms. PLUS make you more aware of your surroundings, have multiple plans of action for Home, Work and anywhere else you may be.

FWIW: With such an extensive web site I see nothing about the instructor himself, or did i pass that info by?

[Delfuego]

Wow. If the instructor is SO wrong on the law, just imagine how flawed everything else he taught was. This is the kind of junk that really should prevent someone from teaching.

Seems like a standardized (or somewhat) curriculum is not such a bad thing. My CCW class was a joke, but nothing like this garbage. I do believe that range instruction should be necessary. You guys may not need it, but most do...

[MarkCO]

I have been asked to come in to talk to a few prosecutors about students that have taken my CCW course over the years. In one case, the prosecutor was seeking to use the course to hold the person to a higher standard than the law required...did not work and I believe my knowledge of the law and figuring out what he was trying to do benefited this past student. In the other cases, it seemed like the Prosecutor was just dotting the "i's" and crossing the "t's" and it was no big deal. Very few instructors have been endorsed as an expert in a legal or civil trial and most would probably be used against their students as opposed to in support of their actions. So I agree with Jim's assessment in post #33.

[Wulf202]

Just wow

[ChunkyMonkey]

Basically, the elevator, escalator, RTD bus part is about public transportation/conveyance which some argue is illegal to bring firearms. BUT concealed is concealed!!

[spleify]

My offer still stands if you would like your son and wife to attend our class we will be sure to educate them as best we can and get them pointed in the correct direction.

[RANGERRON72]

My offer still stands if you would like your son and wife to attend our class we will be sure to educate them as best we can and get them pointed in the correct direction.

Had my CCW since the 1990's. Have taken a couple of "gratis" refresher courses from both active LE and others RKI's.Checked the www.allamericanconcealedcarry.com web site, and the big missing item is a bio of the instructors credentials.My guess is they don't really have a strong set of credentials except for "NRA Pistol Instructor" which takes the effort of fogging a mirror and paying a fee.Go take a good course, FWIW.

[Great-Kazoo]

Had my CCW since the 1990's. Have taken a couple of "gratis" refresher courses from both active LE and others RKI's.Checked the www.allamericanconcealedcarry.com web site, and the big missing item is a bio of the instructors credentials.My guess is they don't really have a strong set of credentials except for "NRA Pistol Instructor" which takes the effort of fogging a mirror and paying a fee.Go take a good course, FWIW.

I mentioned the lack of a BIO. However an NRA Instructor certificate [ONLY] does not make said person less knowledgeable than JOHN Wayne All Star firearms honcho. What separates some instructors is How they "teach / Instruct" the student.
Some straight talk you , while others spend 50-60% of their course telling "stories" of "How they stopped" "When i was a Sheriff" "I remember one time while i was patrolling" Etc.
ONE war story is ok, providing it's relevant to a CCW, using a CCW class for you own personal bio lecture is not.

My concern is for all the WE UPDATE'S this course has, the complete omission for the Instructors Bio, is a concern. Give me, the potential student some meat, not a lot of hot air. The web site looks like a CV for a job. Using all Buzz Words to get your attention, as i'm sure it does