Our argument in a nutshell: Waking the dragon — How Feinstein fiddled while America burned

[Bailey Guns]

Indeed I do, but does Hound?

I don't care if Hound does. Since his "no democrats in sight during Katrina" comment he has zero credibility as far as I'm concerned.

[Rucker61]

I don't care if Hound does. Since his "no democrats in sight during Katrina" comment he has zero credibility as far as I'm concerned.

Then why waste your time responding to him?

[Bailey Guns]

For the same reason I respond to you. For the same reason I want my voice heard by politicians with whom I disagree and don't respect. By speaking my mind I'm letting others with a differing viewpoint know there is opposition to their views. They may not care but at least they'll know.

[Ronin13]

When I say "fair", what do you think I mean?

Depends on the context. Bailey provided different context- but when someone starts pushing for "fairness" my ears perk up and I try and catch their context of "fair."
If you mean we're all entitled to fair treatment under the law- I'm cool with that.
If you mean we're all entitled to a fair shot at opportunity- Great!
But if you mean everyone (ie: the rich) need to pay their "fair share", GFY... that's socialism.

[Omicron]

Let me apologize for giving you the impression that I was really criticizing your merger, saying you made a mistake or trying annoy a moderator. My original intent was really to poke fun at the hypersensitivity I've seen lately on "reposts" -- just reacted too fast to the "look at the date" comment.

Again, my apologies.

No sweat, all good man.

[Rucker61]

Depends on the context. Bailey provided different context- but when someone starts pushing for "fairness" my ears perk up and I try and catch their context of "fair."

To be accurate, Bailey introduced the word into the discussion with no context.

If you mean we're all entitled to fair treatment under the law- I'm cool with that.
If you mean we're all entitled to a fair shot at opportunity- Great!
But if you mean everyone (ie: the rich) need to pay their "fair share", GFY... that's socialism.

Regarding the last, you haven't defined "fair share", so I don't know if it's socialism or not. If you believe a flat tax system is fair, then a fair share is the result. Likewise, if a moderate or severe progressive tax system is your idea of fair, then what is a fair share is greatly different. Regardless of whatever system, if any system, you endorse, the results of that system end up with everyone paying their "fair share". See why agreed upon definitions are important.

And without context, you had no idea that by "fair" I meant "ball in play, runners may try to advance".