Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[DingleBerns]

I am really not wanting to put words in your post, so please correct me here. You are saying that if a cop feels he wants to come into my home for any reason, he can and should with my only recourse being a judge after the fact? I have nothing to say and you don't have to either?

There are bad apples in every profession however cops don't just walk into random houses without a reason. I always ask for consent to search something even if i have probable cause. If i get it then it helps my case, if i don't, i search anyway (again if i have pc). If i don't have pc, I ask for consent, and they throw out the word "warrant" then i leave it at that. I have a feeling there is more to the story that the video doesn't show.

Side note: It is always funny when your about to arrest somebody and they say "you can't arrest me, you haven't read me my rights!" People need to stop watching police drama shows thinking that what they do on television is correct. And no it is not a right that you get a phone call as soon as I arrest you, what amendment is that under?

[Hound]

There are bad apples in every profession however cops don't just walk into random houses without a reason. I always ask for consent to search something even if i have probable cause. If i get it then it helps my case, if i don't, i search anyway (again if i have pc). If i don't have pc, I ask for consent, and they throw out the word "warrant" then i leave it at that. I have a feeling there is more to the story that the video doesn't show.

Side note: It is always funny when your about to arrest somebody and they say "you can't arrest me, you haven't read me my rights!" People need to stop watching police drama shows thinking that what they do on television is correct. And no it is not a right that you get a phone call as soon as I arrest you, what amendment is that under?

What you are describing here is what I would expect to be the answer. I assume you are also a LEO? It is good to hear this from one if that is the case. Agreed, we are not seeing all of what happened and there may be more but if a Judge only had this much hard evidence (and yes this is hypothetical) would I be so far off saying they should back down and get a warrant to de-escalate the situation?

Also, (again asking for understanding) don't you have to tell me what the probable cause is? It seems that is the meaning written into the 4th. If not, what is to stop a cop from searching, finding something and then backfilling their story to fit what they found?

[DingleBerns]

What you are describing here is what I would expect to be the answer. I assume you are also a LEO? It is good to hear this from one if that is the case. Agreed, we are not seeing all of what happened and there may be more but if a Judge only had this much hard evidence (and yes this is hypothetical) would I be so far off saying they should back down and get a warrant to de-escalate the situation?

Also, (again asking for understanding) don't you have to tell me what the probable cause is? It seems that is the meaning written into the 4th. If not, what is to stop a cop from searching, finding something and then backfilling their story to fit what they found?

I guess if you want to be confrontational then you can say get a warrant. There are too many variables that could or could not be present which could get a law enforcement officer into a house without a warrant. At that point, you will know if they have pc or not because they will either leave, get a warrant, or search anyways.

I usually tell most people what my pc is but you don't have to (it's just the nice thing to do). Again there are bad apples, but Integrity should stop that and if it doesn't then they will get caught up in internal affairs sooner or later.