Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[Hound]

The home owner could have stepped out and messing with cops is generally not the smart move. The home owner could have backed down but as with Ronin's story they don't always. I would also say we are not free if as citizens we are always expected to be the ones to backdown when confronted by authority. There are extreme cases like Ruby Ridge and Waco and smaller like Ronin's mom. We know how those turned out. The right answer is that unless the cop knows 100% somebody is in danger they should expect to backdown. That does not mean leave just backoff and get a judicial review if the citizen is pushing their rights. They hear a scream, go get'em. Other than that backoff, you have control of the perimeter if that is warranted. If I can't be in control of my own home what are we saying that this is a free country.

[Bailey Guns]

I would also say we are not free if as citizens we are always expected to be the ones to backdown when confronted by authority. There are extreme cases like Ruby Ridge and Waco and smaller like Ronin's mom. We know how those turned out. The right answer is that unless the cop knows 100% somebody is in danger they should expect to backdown. That does not mean leave just backoff and get a judicial review if the citizen is pushing their rights. They hear a scream, go get'em. Other than that backoff, you have control of the perimeter if that is warranted. If I can't be in control of my own home what are we saying that this is a free country.

No, Hound, that's not the right answer. And the reason you are expected to defer to authority is because the police are engaged to keep the peace. And in a scenario like I outlined above they don't need to get a judicial review. It's already been done. It's called case law and precedence.

It's like talking to a freakin' wall.