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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    BFD! You can't seem to comprehend an intelligent argument so what difference does it make. You've had several current and former peace officers who've been in situations like this explain it to you over and over in great detail and you still don't get it. You ignore established policy, precedence, case law and procedures that have been explained to you over and over. I can overlook ignorance because you don't know what you don't know. But when the reality is explained to you numerous times by people who are trained and experienced and you ignore that and continue with your ridiculous arguments you've crossed the line from ignorant to stupid.

    Stupid is inexcusable.
    Got it, Always bow down to the cop. Stupid to do otherwise in this Free Country we call America. Bailey your America scares me but your'e right, cops own America. Keep feeding those that believe in a police state! (Either side)

    I on the other hand think most cops are here to Protect and Serve. We still live under all of the Constitution including the 4th. Government powers are limited, including cops. Citizens wanting a warrant have every RIGHT to one regardless of "established policy, precedence, case law and procedures" which have been refuted even in this thread. Heres some more:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ninth Circuit Judge Alex Kozinski wrote in 1989
    Liberty—the freedom from unwarranted intrusion by government—is as easily lost through insistent nibbles by government officials who seek to do their jobs too well as by those whose purpose it is to oppress; the piranha can be as deadly as the shark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme Court Justice Brandeis: United States v. Olmstead
    Experience should teach us to be most on guard to protect liberty when the Government’s purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding.
    The last one sums up my feelings on this video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Got it, Always bow down to the cop. Stupid to do otherwise in this Free Country we call America. Bailey your America scares me but your'e right, cops own America. Keep feeding those that believe in a police state! (Either side)
    You don't get anything. You show me one place where that sentiment (bow down to the cops) was expressed by anyone with my point of view in this argument. One place. No one ever said anything of the sort besides you, it's obvious and you know it. You can't have a rational discussion. You insist on tossing out emotional hyperbole like "bow down to the cops" and the "cops own America". You're intellectually bankrupt in this argument and your immature and irrational bullshit is really starting to push my buttons.

    I've made two basic arguments in this thread:

    1) There isn't enough information to make an informed decision on whether or not the police acted properly from the video. (This one can be debated because it's a matter of opinion.)

    2) A warrant isn't always required to enter someone's home. (This one can't be debated regardless of your opinion. If you believe otherwise, you're wrong.)

    That's it.

    OK...3 basic arguments. The third being you're really being stupid on this issue. You're exactly the type of person I'd expect to see doing the same stupid shit as the guy in the video.
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