For the P250 and P229s, I know they don't have a manual safety, so what is used to keep them safe while concealed carrying? I'm a newb!
For the P250 and P229s, I know they don't have a manual safety, so what is used to keep them safe while concealed carrying? I'm a newb!
B-Ry
I use both a Sig 229 and 239 for concealed carry and I use the decocker to carry them in Double Action with the hammer down. The first pull of the trigger will be Double Action and then every subsequent trigger pull will be Single Action.
That's kinda what I thought. So any pull of the trigger will discharge the gun, though it is a 10 lb trigger pull, correct? I dunno if I like that.
You are correct any pull of the trigger in a DA/SA handgun will fire it. I have not measured the DA trigger pull on either of my Sigs so I am not sure if it is 10 lbs or not. It is really a personal preference as to the condition you want your carry weapon to be in. With a DA/SA I definitely practice the transition of the first shot being DA and the following shots being SA.
You need to tackle this problem from a different angle. If you are carrying, and are worried that you will pull the trigger when you don't mean to, then you need to find a new way to carry. I've been carrying my M&P with NO manual or active safety, and NO double action trigger pull for about a year now. As long as you don't pull the trigger, the gun won't fire.
"There are no finger prints under water."
1st: Get some training
2nd: practice
3rd: still don't like it? Get a 1911 variant-
- grip safety
- thumb safety
- firing pin safety (MkIV variants and newer, IIRC)
most modern auto's will not fire unless you pull the trigger. Something you shouldn't be worried about IF you follow the rules for firearms
worried about someone grabbing it and using it against you.. the 1911's carried cocked and locked will help vs the average thug as they'll just point and pull the trigger...you on the other hand, will have trained on it's use and know to thumb the safety down when you go to use it
Some HK's, Berrettas and others will do this as well.
It's kind of like a fixed blade knife. You wouldn't carry a fixed blade without a sheath right? And you'd certainly keep your fingers away from the blade while handling right?
And you probably wouldn't cut yourself just by drawing and inserting into the sheath right?
Same thing as a gun. You learn that the trigger is the dangerous "No touchy!" part. Once you get used to it, it's really not as scary anymore.
"There are no finger prints under water."
I use the ol' keep your finger off the trigger method, it's the only safety method Ive ever needed (that and training)
I guess with the right holster it wouldn't be an issue. But I was also thinking it would be good to have a manual safety for people using it who are use to one. I really prefer not to have a grip safety though.
Also, I was about set on the P229, but then I was thinking that the aluminum frame wouldn't last as long as a polymer frame since aluminum will fatigue at some point. I've heard <10,000 rounds. It would probably take me forever to get that round count, but I will likely have the gun for a very long time.
the aluminum frame is not a bad thing. They are pretty darn strong. I just picked up a P226 that was used as a range training gun for about 10+ years. all springs and the barrel were replaced and this thing is still a tack driver. I wouldnt have any issues with carrying it. The beretta M9 is an aluminum frame also, and both the sig, and the M9 passed the military standards. If its good enough for US military service, its definately good enough for me!
With the double action/ single action/ no safety debate, the pull is about 7 to 9 lbs on my sig in double action. Its also a pretty long pull for that first shot. VERY smooth though. Unless you intentionaly put your finger in the trigger guard and squeeze the trigger, that gun wont go off. I havnt been through tons and tons of training, but I can get that first round in double action in the X ring almost every time from the holster. Just practice with it. Sigs are great guns!