H&K

[centrarchidae]

H&K looks at the American civilian shooter as a pain in the ass. They are only interested in the military/ LE area, and if you did'nt see the OBVIOUS sarcasim in Jerry Tsai's comments, then you don't know H&K.

Where did you get the idea that H&K cared about the LE market? When I was an LE armorer, I would rather have had my teeth cleaned by a special-needs child with three or four extra chromosomes, using a metric socket set, than deal with H&K.

Besides, their guns are forged deep in Odin's ass from Nordic unobtainium before being brought to Earth by valkries and prayed over by Father Guido Sarducci, and none of us are worthy.

[spyder]

Nope, never heard it. I always hear a bunch of whining about Hk though...

[islandermyk]

Besides, their guns are forged deep in Odin's ass from Nordic unobtainium before being brought to Earth by valkries and prayed over by Father Guido Sarducci, and none of us are worthy.

That's awesome


I keep'em "liked" on my FB just to see what's Odin is blowing out his ars ... but I'ma lil disappointed with'em on that page as they won't comment on or show support on the 2nd amendment.... but haven't come across anything saying they hate civilians using or buying their stuff on FB yet.

[Cylinder Head]

I will say that my H&K's have never jammed in thousands of rounds and at times purposeful neglect (hey let's see if it will run without lube/cleaning). You do pay through the nose for that Teutonic gnome magic.

[Guylee]

I've never carried one personally, but talked to several guys overseas that carried them and absolutely hated it. They said they were difficult to shoot and inaccurate. I had my eye on a usp 45 until recently when I fired one and found the trigger press to be absolutely atrocious.

Needless to say, my affinity with HK has dropped quite a bit in the last few months.

[theGinsue]

Sorry, but the MP71a is nothing more than an Uzi for the 21st century. I'm just not diggin it.

Overall I like H&K's products, but the way they handled the ATI deal over he GSG-5 pissed me off royally. They refused to make a semi-auto .22LR version of her MP5, then ATI mkes one and sales are through the roof. So, H&K decides they're going to make one afterall but need to stop ATI from making them to eliminate the competition.

[islandermyk]

I will say that my H&K's have never jammed in thousands of rounds and at times purposeful neglect (hey let's see if it will run without lube/cleaning). You do pay through the nose for that Teutonic gnome magic.

I did this with my MARK23 .... a lil over 3000 rounds with out cleaning (and loading dirty mags in it after dropping'em on the ground/dirt)... without jamming. I did lube it though.. I guess this doesn't count then

[islandermyk]

I've never carried one personally, but talked to several guys overseas that carried them and absolutely hated it. They said they were difficult to shoot and inaccurate. I had my eye on a usp 45 until recently when I fired one and found the trigger press to be absolutely atrocious.

Needless to say, my affinity with HK has dropped quite a bit in the last few months.

Should try that USP .46 MATCH... that thing is phenomenal... well that was a bit of an exaggeration, but that thing was accurate out to 100 yards 4 or 5 in a row out of 7 shots made that day. I don't own one, but I know who does... what a lucky guy

[Goodburbon]

I shoot my USP40 tac better than anything I own... Except the "Serb-Croat special" Springfield XD, which I shoot as good as the USP.

It disheartens me that HK doesn't see fit to provide Semi-auto examples of many of their weapons for civilian consumption.


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[Rabid]

I've never carried one personally, but talked to several guys overseas that carried them and absolutely hated it. They said they were difficult to shoot and inaccurate. I had my eye on a usp 45 until recently when I fired one and found the trigger press to be absolutely atrocious.

Needless to say, my affinity with HK has dropped quite a bit in the last few months.

I have a USPc and P7 like Cylinder, islander and bourbon have said i have never had a jam. they fit my hand like a glove and are very accurate. Like you said the USPc trigger is sub par for a DA/SA and i feel the LEM trigger is even worse. I had to get a part for the P7 and water boarding might have been more fun then dealing with them. They are kinda like Enzo Ferrari who said that the people that bought his cars are idiots and the only reason he catered to the public was so he could support his racing cars or in HK's mind there military contracts.