More disturbing signs of Amerika the Police State

[ShelbyJK500]

I truly don't see the problem if it's being taken against their will. That in and of itself provides the opportunity for people to go sideways, nevermind the fact that alcohol is involved, which makes almost anyone unpredictable. If I had to make an educated guess, it's probably because they have a civilian nurse doing the blood draw. That person is at great risk when dealing with a needle and someone who is under the influence of alcohol having a procedure done to them against their will. What the general public doesn't hear about is the large number of cases in HOSPITALS, not jails where these same types of draws were being done without people in restraints. ER staff have been injured, stuck by needles and even held hostage by people with the very needle being used to do the draw.

I can tell you much of that has stopped because hospitals have put policies in place to restrain any of these people during blood draws. I mean how horrible is it really when someone is strapped down for all of the 30 seconds or less it takes to do the draw and then the restraints are taken right back off. It helps keep civilian medical personnel safe. Almost every non-compliant person starts out as compliant at some point. Humans are always unpredictable even without the addition of alcohol into the scenario.

[clublights]

I truly don't see the problem if it's being taken against their will. That in and of itself provides the opportunity for people to go sideways, nevermind the fact that alcohol is involved, which makes almost anyone unpredictable. If I had to make an educated guess, it's probably because they have a civilian nurse doing the blood draw. That person is at great risk when dealing with a needle and someone who is under the influence of alcohol having a procedure done to them against their will. What the general public doesn't hear about is the large number of cases in HOSPITALS, not jails where these same types of draws were being done without people in restraints. ER staff have been injured, stuck by needles and even held hostage by people with the very needle being used to do the draw.

I can tell you much of that has stopped because hospitals have put policies in place to restrain any of these people during blood draws. I mean how horrible is it really when someone is strapped down for all of the 30 seconds or less it takes to do the draw and then the restraints are taken right back off. It helps keep civilian medical personnel safe. Almost every non-compliant person starts out as compliant at some point. Humans are always unpredictable even without the addition of alcohol into the scenario.

Ok what about when you are given the choice ( as I was) between blood or breath and I chose blood... should I have been strapped down? I coulda gone sideways right ? and I'm a big dood 6'3" 300+ I was larger then both the deputies damn near combined.

[ShelbyJK500]

Ok what about when you are given the choice ( as I was) between blood or breath and I chose blood... should I have been strapped down? I coulda gone sideways right ? and I'm a big dood 6'3" 300+ I was larger then both the deputies damn near combined.

I've never seen, and I don't think you ever would (even in this county), a voluntary draw done like this. Again, you are doing something against somebody's will...that is already putting a "dog in a corner" if you will. Of course anything can go bad at any time, even with a voluntary. And don't believe I haven't seen that happen. It's just a MUCH MUCH lower risk and things are still done to even minimize that risk.

[clublights]

It's just a MUCH MUCH lower risk and things are still done to even minimize that risk.

I get the officer saftey side of it ... and I'm sure that is 100% of the reason they do it like that in Gwinnette County, GA.

But like I said at the start... if it is THAT unsafe then maybe the policy should be dropped.

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Like I said when they did me on the blood both the deputies and tasers out and I'm quite sure if I flinched wrong I woulda "rode the lightening" but even drunk I'm not THAT Stupid to think it would be a good time LOL.