Home Invasion

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

I'm glad the guy and his family are safe.

+1 for what mick boy and Jim said.

I work in a not so favorable part of Denver, some pretty rough spots and I cannot ccw at work. That sucks. I have to constantly watch my back I am walking to and from my work truck in allies, sometimes at night etc and the worst part is I'm in people's houses which can be scary. I know people say concealed is concealed but it's not an option. The nature of my work and the positions I get myself into to reach things I cannot do it. My solution is formal training in bjj and Muay Thai, haters can hate all they want about that won't do shit against street thugs and being jumped etc etc., well it's my only option. There's no classes on how to fight with a fucking chain or tire iron last time I checked, and I'm too old to go hustle the streets and get my 'cred' up so no one fucks with me.

Sorry for the thread jack.

[OtterbatHellcat]

There are a lot of good points in this thread, and thanks for sharing it OP.

I'm glad your friend came out of it okay.

I would only add that you can shoot a stupid bastard without killing him....and if he started throwing shit at me after I told him to get his sorry ass on the floor at gunpoint???

*bang*

[Great-Kazoo]

There are a lot of good points in this thread, and thanks for sharing it OP.

I'm glad your friend came out of it okay.

I would only add that you can shoot a stupid bastard without killing him....and if he started throwing shit at me after I told him to get his sorry ass on the floor at gunpoint???

*bang*

That lawsuit and trial will crucify you in the court of public opinion. Do a search (cause i'm too lazy) on the lawsuit some skel filed against a homeowner years ago. He sued for loss of "work' claiming since he was now disabled, no longer able to break in to peoples homes, etc.

[sroz]

This. The last thing I want to do is take someone's life. But protecting my family is on the top of my list of priorities. If he was inside my home it would probably be shoot first, ask questions later. But, the garage is a different story. I would never want to kill someone for trying to steal my property. Beat the living hell out of them maybe. But not kill them.

^^^^ This.

[OtterbatHellcat]

That lawsuit and trial will crucify you in the court of public opinion. Do a search (cause i'm too lazy) on the lawsuit some skel filed against a homeowner years ago. He sued for loss of "work' claiming since he was now disabled, no longer able to break in to peoples homes, etc.

Seriously? and the piece of shit won his case?

This world really pisses me off sometimes.

[RMAC757]

I think about this a lot with my wife and daughter at home.....and yes I even train for it. At home (sometimes with a blue gun ) and scenario based range stuff. After reading this I've found that most all of my training ends in me pulling the trigger....muscle memory. I'm wondering if I felt in imitate danger within my own home if I would have the restraint to not pull the trigger. Some excellent food for thought as I would rather have a suspect apprehended and detained rather than blown apart in my living room or kitchen. I'd hope the violence of action with me screaming and shouting and the sight of a well aimed firearm would be enough to rectify the situation. Either the criminal running out of my house or being subdued enough until the police arrive. My family does have a plan and we go over it often.

[Jmetz]

Seriously? and the piece of shit won his case?

This world really pisses me off sometimes.

Seriously. There's multiple cases like the one Jim described. You don't shoot to wound..

[wctriumph]

A long time ago (before cell phones) in a state far far away (SoCal) I was in a similar situation, found a tweaker in my garage (he had pried the hasp off the jam) going through my tools. At that time I carried my 442 in my pocket and I immediately pulled it out but did not point it at him. The guys eyes went real big and he pissed himself on the spot and was just shaking so hard. I was blocking the only exit and could see he was confused as to what he was going to do. I told him to empty his pockets on to the floor which he did, even his drugs and kit. I backed up and cleared the door and told him to get the f*&@ out and never come back. I closed the door, went back upstairs and called the Hunting Beach PD and reported what happened (did not mention the gun as I did not have a permit), they said they would an officer out to take a report. I called work to say I would be late and waited for the police. I had to make two more calls and finally after just over 2 hours an officer showed up to take the report. I gave a description, the cop new the guy, he was a local addict but was considered non violent. The cop took the drugs and kit, placed them in evidence bags. I said I wanted to press breaking and entering charges and attempted burglary charges. The cop said he would put it in his report and the DA would make a determination as to whether any charges would be filed and he left. I had a heck of a time getting a copy of the report and when I did it said that the officer responded to a suspected break in, no witness statement, no evidence collected. Saw the guy again a couple days later digging the Jack in The Box trash bin.

Anyway, long story that just came flooding out, sorry. The point is, no reason to kill this guy, rights or not. I have been shot at brandished at and this was the only time I ever pulled. I never want to have to shoot anyone, ever. I can't imagine what my mental state would have been if I had killed that guy that day. If I had been woken up in my domicile and found him the story might have been different but, in my garage and unarmed with me having the advantage I chose to let him escape. I have been over and over this in my mind uncountable times and I believe if he had acted in a non defensive aggressive manner and come toward me I would have shot him dead. He was just scared so I let him go and called the police, they did not follow up for whatever reason.

Life and Liberty to all y'all.

[BushMasterBoy]

Makes me wonder if I could lose a civil case against me because of what I post here! Trayvon Martins parents got a million dollars from the HOA! We have the best justice system money could buy...

[Aloha_Shooter]

Shooting someone should always be a solemn decision albeit not one to paralyze you into inaction. Your friend got the guy off the streets without having to deal with blood on his hands or on his property. I'd say he did it exactly right. Good for him!