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    Default Re: Not to be outdone by Boulder, CO Springs bans outdoor smoking...

    I really really hate smoking in general. But, it's a park outside.... come on.

    Now, an outdoor mall like pearl street or 16th street. Sure. Understandable. But the park?

    Sent from my teepee using smoke signals.

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    The premise of this is a fallacy. Second hand smoke can be detrimental to ones health, but only in a relatively confined space(such as an automobile or small home) and prolonged exposure.
    If this premise were true then everybody at a concert would be stoned due to a few stoners.
    The "dangers" of second hand smoke in an outdoor environment are right up there with global warming.
    Pure BS.
    I smoke and if I am someplace outdoors if you mention in a considerate away that it bothers you I will: a- move to a different location b-put it out.
    I will respect your space if you respect my right to smoke.
    Now if somebody is a jerk about it I will gladly: a-tell you to find someplace else or b-chain smoke like a train.
    Respect begats respect.
    BS like this is why Boulder and now the Springs will see damn few of my dollars.
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    i pretty much hate smoking and smokers. i find smokers for the most part (not all) to be lazy and inconsiderate pos's.
    in the Marine Corps, I found out how lazy smokers were for the first time. dropping their butts every where too lazy to put them in the trash. we all had to clean up after those dbags. any time you go to a store or other business now, you have to run the gauntlet of dbag smokers at the entrance (since they can no longer smoke inside)(and because they are too lazy to walk into an area that it wouldnt bother others). i hate smoking, i hate smoke.

    BUT, I love freedom, so I wont legislate away someone elses freedoms or suggest that they should be. I wish MOST smokers were considerate. But, I also wish ammo was cheap too and that aint happening.

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    I was a heavy smoker for many years but gave it up 28 years ago. I hate the smell and the butts everywhere but I still think smokers have rights too !
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    It's all about the butts and litter being left behind. Smokers always just toss butts on the ground. The rest of their reasoning is an excuse. M

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3beansalad View Post
    Can't we, as people, simply ask one another not to smoke or move if we don't like being near a smoker? As an asthmatic former smoker, I hate cigarette smoke with a passion, but c'mon. The people are already outdoors after all, it's not like they are being trapped within Sertich Ice Arena with a bunch of chain smokers.

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    This ^^^^^

    I hate cig smoke with a passion. But I am also all about personal liberties and I do not like to see the encroached upon. IMO part of the problem we have in this country with poor social skills is we legislate instead of just communicating. Giving the example I quoted it takes all interaction out of the equation. I am fine with you having the desire to smoke and take a walk in a park just like you should respect the fact when I express that I have an issue with smoke and could you please put it out for a few till I am done or smoke in another section of the park. Legislating it takes all of our community communicating skills and tosses the need for them out the window.

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    I thought being in a Public place meant putting up with other people and by extension their habits. Hell I dislike people in General, can I get a waiver that all you ugly mugs have to leave before I show up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colorider View Post
    It's all about the butts and litter being left behind. Smokers always just toss butts on the ground. The rest of their reasoning is an excuse. M
    ^That's exactly what this is all about. They even said so. This has very little to do with smoking It's all about them littering and causing possible fire concerns.

    While I HATE smoke and I am perfectly okay with this but I am afraid between this and the retail pot ban (which I am also all for) we may have put our Republican strong hold at risk here. Colorado Springs is the last (large city) hold out for us on the Pro Republican/Pro gun front and I don't want to lose it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnrider View Post
    While I HATE smoke and I am perfectly okay with this but I am afraid between this and the retail pot ban (which I am also all for) we may have put our Republican strong hold at risk here. Colorado Springs is the last (large city) hold out for us on the Pro Republican/Pro gun front and I don't want to lose it.
    This just brought something to my attention... what about recreational pot use? I personally do not like the effects, the smell nor can I be around it. So once it's "fully legal" or whatever they have to do to make it so people can enjoy their 64th Amendment rights here in good old California Pt 2, will it be regarded like MMJ where folks have to smoke in homes/cars and not in public? Or will they fail to enforce or loosely enforce public smoking bans for pot? Or will it be completely okay in public? The only reason I ask, being a former smoker (cigarette smoker not talking about pot) I'd much rather be exposed to cigarette smoke than have to cough on pot smoke. I already know a couple bars in CO that if the staff caught someone smoking weed, wouldn't do a damn thing about it... some might even join. So will it be demonized harsher than cigarettes? Or will they relax the standard because "it's not as harmful"? <Which is a lie.
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