I'm sorry to hear about htis, it was a huge shock. I know that they closed down part of the Grasslands up north here due to an incident where a bullet came too close to comfort to a house. This kind of stupid crap has to stop.![]()
I'm sorry to hear about htis, it was a huge shock. I know that they closed down part of the Grasslands up north here due to an incident where a bullet came too close to comfort to a house. This kind of stupid crap has to stop.![]()
Honestly, I think it should be shut down. We did that cleanup back in early May. What a shit hole that place was. We spent 4-5 hours cleaning it up, did a bad ass job...2 weeks later it was worse than before...
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You know, They should have been charging people to use the range from the get go. Just that right there would weed the morons out, even if there were no range officer.
I went there ONE time, when I first moved here to check it out, and I got the hell out after 30 seconds of what I saw. I was genuinly afraid for my life, and it turns out my fears were correct. I won't even drive PAST the range, for fear that someone could be shooting in the wrong direction.
I spent my Obama Stimulus money on a GUN!
The problem with making it a pay range is people will just drive a couple more miles up the road and shoot in the forrest. At least the range keeps the morons all in the same place where you can avoid them.
Can you imagine how many more accidental shootings would occur if these hundreds of people per day were just out shooting in the forrest? No backstop, no checking for what's down range. Just blasting their hanguns sideways gangster style and bumpfiring their SKS's.
I have no problems with a supervised range. But start charging money and people won't go to the range. This creates a scarey situation in the woods. No more hiking or biking. No nature walks. I'd be afraid every time I went outside in Teller County.
Now if it is a 1st class facility, where people see what their money gets them, they are more likely to use the facilities and pay... at least in my opinion.
Ever been to Dallas? I've been to and attend Elm Fork (Run by city of Dallas)
http://www.elmfork.com/facilities.html
The city has a firearms range that is an excellent example of how to do it right. Recently renoved since 2004. It looks like a golf course with the club house, golf carts, indoor cafe/grill. They hold national and international events for Skeet, Trap, Clays, 5 Stand, Rifle and Pistol. They have rifle ranges out to 300 yards even although the web site says the100 yard range is not open, it hasn't been updated! Online doesn't even do it justice.
If the city would start something like this we could be a shooting destination from Denver and surrounding states and get more revenue and local sales for our area.
I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.
Is this the first death up there or has it happened before?
I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often. Like many of you, I have stories to tell from shooting up there. Firearms are only as unsafe as the people handling them. I reckon something like this would have happened to those folks eventually no matter where they did their shooting.
Personally I think it would be silly to close the range. We don't close down a street after someone dies in a car crash. People have been shooting there for decades. One death in all that time is an accident, not a statistic.
As Colorado Osprey pointed out, lowlifes would just drive further up the road and shoot into the trees.
best to keep a basket open for the rotten eggs to shoot.
Those not willing to pay to go to a quality and safe range are those not willing to pay to learn how to shoot safely and accurately.
Rampart range is a nice place for the "not willing to pay" idiots to go. Keeps them from showing up at my range.
How can some of you say this is not sad??!!! It is incredibly sad! A kid got killed! Or isn't that sad enough for you?!
WTF is wrong with you?! If it was your kid I bet you'd be crying! I know I would be and I'd be after the asshole that shot him. Natural consequences, you know. And it's also sad because it is one more place we lose to shoot, even if it was a bad place. Never been there myself, however we go rockhounding for the topaz and amazonite in the area.
And it's also sad because this is just another feather in the cap of the anti-gun folks.
Fuqing sad all the way around. I really feel for the family. Of both.
Maybe I read the posts wrong, but I don't see how.
Thanks Ridge and the others that helped clean up!
Last edited by Tristan; 07-20-2009 at 13:00. Reason: ridge
Whenever I went, I left at about 8-9am.
Protip: unsafe idiots tend to sleep in on the weekends. It was just me and a couple crotchety old men zeroing in their rifles.
Terrible thing for the person who got shot. Owning a gun and not learning the safety rules is even dumber than buying a chainsaw and playing with it on full power.
That really sucks that someone got killed by another idiot. It's the worry I have any time I go to a un-managed range area. That is what makes me show up early and leave early.
I agree though that keeping it open is best, it gives those folks a place to shoot in a specific location.
People will find another place to go and at least here they are not shooting over anyones homes or a hwy.