I dont consider them the same. The options were to get a paycheck from the government or have student loans. If you are getting a paycheck from a government entity then you work for said entity. My point was that a large portion of the workers being paid by the different governments, city, state and federal, dont actually work, and that we dont need more of them to not work and pull a paycheck. I work in a trade and have dont work for a government. Working in a trade does not require student loans. I have student loans and am almost done paying, unlike like many out there who dont bother to pay it back.

I find it interesting how every job opening for the government has tons of people applying but a lot of other jobs cant get filled because they actually require a person to work. The place I work for is looking for laborers, it pays 15 or so an hour. We hire guys, they work for a day and decide it is too hard and dont show up the next day. The best workers we have are from mexico. The americans want that cushy city job where they just sit in their truck all day. I actually worked with a guy whose dad worked for the city. He had a garage built with an extra tall door so his city truck could fit in it. He would check in the morning and go home and nap in his truck in the garage with the door closed. He said he actually worked maybe a single day a week, and nobody cared. Talked to another guy with the highway department who spent every working day for a couple of weeks driving around in a plow truck, no snow. It had been an easy winter so they had a huge fuel budget to use up or they wouldnt be able to ask for a larger one next year. They couldnt move the money to another department, it had to be used on fuel for snow removal.