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    I just remember at our apartment complex, having to call about an emergency leak that I was worried was going to flood our crawl space. I had to call California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I just remember at our apartment complex, having to call about an emergency leak that I was worried was going to flood our crawl space. I had to call California.
    Yikes, yeah, LARGE management companies. Lame.
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    Edit: Couple pages late! OOPS....


    Common sense WINS!!

    COMMON SENSE WINS! ** LIKE & SHARE **

    CASTLE ROCK - A controversial gun policy at an apartment complex for seniors has been thrown out after a 9Wants to Know report.

    The Douglas County Housing Partnership, a multi-jurisdictional housing authority, held an emergency board of directors meeting late Wednesday afternoon. Board members decided that the policy, which would have prohibited residents from having firearms in their homes, will not go into effect.

    "These community policy changes were distributed without the knowledge or authorization of the Board of Directors of the Douglas County Housing Partnership or its staff," a Douglas County Housing Partnership release said. "This board does not support any action that infringes on an individual's rights and will not allow Ross Management to implement these changes. "

    FULL STORY & VIDEO HERE:http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=34912
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    I saw this on another forum:

    Update From: Robert B. Wareham The Law Center P.C.

    From Robert B. Wareham
    "BULLETIN: The Oakwood Apartments are not owned by a private property owner, but by the Douglas County Housing Partnership (DCHP) which on its own website admits that it is a "political subdivision and public corporation of the State of Colorado." That's right, the landlord is a state actor. Article II Section 13 of the Colorado Constitution expressly prohibits this conduct. I spoke with the Executive Director of DCHP this afternoon and she assured me the new policies were distributed by the property manager, Ross Management Group, without being vetted through the DCHP Board. She asked us to refrain from filing a lawsuit until the Board could meet. She assured me that she has called a Board meeting for this afternoon to address the firestorm created by this new policy. Because we want to save the taxpayers money, we agreed to give the the opportunity to rescind this unconstitutional policy.

    I also spoke with Douglas Count Commission Jack Hilbert whos is a strong 2nd Amendment supporter and friend of mine. He was equally outraged and working behind the scenes to put pressure on the DCHP Board. (The County Commissioners appoint several of the Board members including the current Chair.)

    For the armchair lawyers who were arguing that nothing could be done if this had been a private property owner, I direct you to Stanley v. Creighton Company, 911 P.2d 705 (Colo.App. 1996) which stands for the proposition that a provision in a residential lease that violates public policy is void. A strong argument could be made that a unilaterally imposed ban on a constitutional right not contracted for at the inception of the contract is void on its face. Section 3 of Article II gives you the inalienable right to defend yourself. Section 13 give you the right to keep and bear arms in defense of your home--sounds like public policy to me! At any rate, you should never jump to the conclusion that nothing can be done when it comes to defending your 2nd Amendment and CO Article II rights."

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    Hmmmmm....wonder if that had any part in the resolution of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by centrarchidae View Post

    Nobody but me has the right to free speech in my house. I decide for myself who gets to be armed in my house. The other two or three members here who've been in my place, I'm just fine with them being armed, but it's my house.
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    Can you prevent or not allow even LEO's into your house with their duty weapons if you forbid their entry while they are armed?? Interesting!. Yeah, I know --!

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    Ross Management Group is paid by Colorado taxpayer, they need to be dragged into the public light and made to explain and immediately fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    Not only that, he said he was going to be forced ..... to leave his guns at a friends 30 miles away, not according to the new "Universal background check."...
    Yes, I know ...sorry in advance

    I believe he can do this under the new law a few different ways:
    1) "loan" the items to the friend for up to 72 hours and stop by the friend's apt. at least every 72 hours and "regain possession", only to immediately "loan" them out again for another 72 hours (assuming he has no key to the friend's apt.).

    2) Store the items in a lockable container (safe/closet/locker) at the friend's apt.to which only he, and not the friend, has the key. The law does not say "where" you are allowed to keep them...just that they remain in your possession and are not transferred. It does not say the items have to be stored at your home.

    EX: One can store them in a rented bay at "Public Storage" and other such facilities
    EX: One can store them in a safety deposit box
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    9News update


    Ross Property management Group are the "anti gun" dirt-bags.

    This was a SNAP! in your face remark to Ross Property Management, glad the housing Authority still believes in Rights;

    This explains a lot of why Ross Property Management came up with the "Anti gun" Policy. The company's owner, Debi Ross, and her husband have given $9,000, only to Democrats, since 2006.
    This pisses me off. In arguablely the most conservative county in the state, our republican commissioners don't do their due diligence, too concerned with being part of the ruling class, to notice such a thing and refuse to do business with leftists.

    I guarantee you that Denver, Adams, Boulder or any other left leaning county would award you a contract if you exclusively donated to republicans, and you would be disqualified if you donated a dime to a tea party or conservative cause.

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    I, for one, am trying to figure out how a welfare manageme.. I mean "state housing management" agency can donate to the Dems and not be seen as a conflict of interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skully View Post
    The company's owner, Debi Ross, and her husband have given $9,000, only to Democrats, since 2006.
    $9,000 over 6 and a half years is really a pittance. That's $115 a month. Most of us will spend more than that on lunch.

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