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    Objectivity. A lot of you could use a big dose of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Objectivity. A lot of you could use a big dose of it.
    Can you buy that at the store? Maybe IKEA?






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    Probably not enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Probably not enough.


    Swedish Objectivity...........
    "The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles. --Jeff Cooper"



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    I'm not a "cop basher", I'm supportive of and have many friends in law enforcement but if you're unable to perceive the pervasive militarization of our police organizations and the increasing instances of heavy handed behavior I submit it is you who should consider "objectivity". A full frontal assault on a 95 year old man confined to a small room and posing no immediate threat to innocents is unjustifiable irrespective of circumstance. Unfortunately I happen to disagree with your perspective of (and I paraphrase) "order, demand, force" and "sort it out later in court".

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    I'll stick with my stance. there is NO FUCKING WAY that you need 6-7 cops for a 95 year old man in a nursing facility who doesn't have access to guns, no gun was present, the staff even said they weren't in danger, they weren't even in the room.

    seriously...a riot shield, a taser and a bean bag gun? yeah, that isn't excessive force on a 95 year old.
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    Well if you think you have enough facts to make an informed decision without any doubt the police acted inappropriately, good for you. I'm glad I had reasonable people willing to listen to facts rather than form an opinion from an overly biased internet essay when I was sued for something I didn't do.
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    I can't even begin to imagine the endless pissing and moaning from some of you if a cop saw you in a situation where it appeared there was no doubt you did something wrong and said he didn't want to listen to anything you had to say because it was obvious you were guilty.

    Then again, you're all experts in LE tactics and procedures. We know that from the countless other similar threads.

    Not to mention all the times the Constitution is cited by many of you as a source of how things should be done...until something happens that pushes your emotional buttons. Then all those "constitutional" issues like due process seem to be forgotten.
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    so you really think 6-7 cops should have to enter the room of a 95 year old man with riot shields, then taze him and shoot him with a bean bag? is that a tactic used by most LE at nursing homes/assisted living facilities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    so you really think 6-7 cops should have to enter the room of a 95 year old man with riot shields, then taze him and shoot him with a bean bag? is that a tactic used by most LE at nursing homes/assisted living facilities?
    I'm with you on this one.
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