training review/discussions

[arz]

Looking at the training section and it seems to be primarily set up for announcements regarding who is offering what training.


I'm looking for recommendations/endorsements/warnings regarding training/trainers.


A.T.T.E.C. is local to me. Anyone have experience with these guys? Randy Weekley is the instructor's name. Internet searches bring up impressive martial arts information, but little to nothing about firearms experience - or perhaps my Google-Fu is weak.

[Tristan]

Don't know.
I first question his "art", as there really is no such thing as "Ninjitsu". Ninjitsu was practiced solely by a Korean family, not Japanese or Chinese, and the art died when the emperor had them wiped out.
Then back in the fifties some folks put together a modern day version of ninjitsu.
Whatever. The "new" ninjitsu, however, is a real decent art if one is trained and has enough real world experience. As in real fights.
It's easy to beat someone up when you're a cop and have partners or other cops with you-mitigation of risk.
And I, too, have taught many, many folks in law enforcement, from local police to State Troopers to the SD and campus police.
Anyways, it would seem he has the knowledge (as least in the MA department), and any training there is good. But being able to apply such on an aggressor in a real life situation would only be on you, your ability, understanding and level of skill.
Blah. I talk a lot.
At any rate, any training is good, even from bad trainers, as you will always learn what or what not to do. I say go for it. Then give us an accounting. An instructor is only as good as his students. Just don't be swayed because he can do cool stuff. 9 times out of 10 those folks fall apart in real life.

[robsterclaw]

I practice the art of Ninjitsu on burgers. I can sneak up on them and take them out quickly and efficiently. I practice on the "Double Double" at Red Top. That's 4oz of cheese and 1lb of meat and of course the bun. I also eat all my fries. I have been contemplating going for a "triple Triple" to hone my skills.

[theGinsue]

I have been contemplating going for a "triple Triple" to hone my skills.

Whoa! Easy there big fella. That type of thing takes years of studying and practice. Such a thing shouldn't even be attempted by amateurs or those with "some" knowledge - it could be dangerous. I speak from experience. While years ago I studied for a long time and was totally immersed in Martial Arts, I switched over to the CA, or Culinary Arts. Not from a theoretical perspective mind you, but from a street consumption application type of perspective. While I'll never be one of those Masters who can down 50 hot dogs inside of 10 minutes, I've certainly earned my (ever increasing in size) Black Belt in the CA.



As for the question of training that started this thread, I have no knowledge or experience with these folks. What I always found worked best for me was just trusting my instincts. Ask them if you can come and observe a couple of their traijing sessions. If they allow you to do that, go and watch. If it "feels" right to you then it probably is.

[Tristan]

Dang, now I'm hungry and under-trained. Poop.
Ginsue has the right idea.

[robsterclaw]

Oh grasshopper.... I have years of Ninja burger eating training. Eating the triple triple has not been done according to our waitress. She's been at the Circle Red Top for years. She said to try it while she's on duty. Could be because of the added tip amount to that burger, but I believe she wants to savor my victory over the triple triple. But not the victory over heart failure that's sure to be helped along by my feat.

[hobowh]

Yes but it's worth every artery hardening bite. After mastering that you need to move on to the San Antonio Steak House they have a 52oz sirloin with all the fixins...

[Pistol Packing Preacher]

My top choice...

Profire USA...

http://www.profire.us/v2-courses.html

[mightymouse]

To actually address the OP's question:

I know Randy informally having shot beside him several times in Andy Stanford classes and been in his school when he hosted SouthNarc. I know from having watched him that he has strong manksmanship skills and is an attentive student.

Having said that, I perused his training course listings and I will say that his prices are VERY expensive for what he says you'll get out of a 1 day course. If you were to extrapolate his 275.00 per day cost, a 2 day session would be 550.00. This is 150.00 more than a comparable course from LMS Defense, Magpul Dynamics and other top tier instructors.

The most troubling part is that what he teaches in that one day class, closely mimics what Andy teaches in his 1 day tactical carbine which costs...

175.00

I simply cannot say that his materials would be worth that cost, compared to other offerings out there. YMMV

[arz]

this is exactly the kind of feedback I was after. thank you.