And the creep continues, a polte rant........

[BPTactical]

As most of you know I am located in a northern metro suburb, Northglenn.
I get my mail today and the city sponsored newspaper the "Northglenn Connection" arrived. Typical community paper BS but one article really caught my eye with its big, bold letters: City Offering Gun Safe Reimbursment Program
Well, well how quant.
Here is the details:

Gun Safe Rebate Program

It will reimburse a Northglenn resident, over the age of 21, up to 25 percent or a maximum of $500 on the purchase of an eligible gun safe. If the gun safe is purchased from a Northglenn business, the city will reimburse up to 30 percent of the cost or a maximum $525. This program is a one-time reimbursement and is limited to one per residence.
The following requirements must be met for the gun safe to be eligible for the reimbursement program:
• The safe must fully contain firearms and provide for their secure storage;
• The safe must have a locking system consisting of at minimum a mechanical or electronic combination lock. The mechanical or electronic combination lock utilized by the safe shall have at least 10,000 possible combinations consisting of a minimum three numbers, letters or symbols. The lock needs to be protected by a case-hardened (Rc 60+) drill resistant steel plate, or drill-resistant material of equivalent strength;
• Bolt work must consist of a minimum of three steel locking bolts of at least 1/2 inch thickness that intrude from the door of the safe into the body of the safe or from the body of the safe into the door of the safe. They must be operated by a separate handle and secured by the lock;
• The safe must be capable of repeated use. The exterior walls shall be constructed of at minimum 12-gauge thick steel for a single-walled safe, or the sum of the steel walls shall add up to at least .1 inches for safes with two walls. Doors shall be constructed of a minimum of two layers of 12-gauge steel, or one layer of 7-gauge steel compound construction;
• Door hinges must be protected to prevent the removal of the door. Protective features include, but are not limited to: hinges not exposed to the outside, interlocking door designs, dead bars, jeweler’s lugs and active or inactive locking bolts.
– Or –
All of the following requirements must be met:
• The safe is listed as an Underwriters Laboratories Residential Security Container;
• The safe is able to fully contain firearms;
• The safe provides for the secure storage of firearms.
Residents wishing to participate in the gun safe reimbursement program must also complete a notarized affidavit, provide a receipt for the safe and submit their application to the Police Department for approval. A notary can be provided Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 9 p.m. Once all the requirements are met the city will issue a check for the amount reimbursed under this program.
• Gun Safe Reimbursement Application
• Gun Safe Reimbursement Affidavit
Residents of the City of Northglenn wishing to participate in this program may email the make and model number of the safe they wish to purchase to gunsafe@northglenn.org prior to their purchase to make sure it meets the requirements of this program.

Seems innocent enough, I mean its for the children right?
But take a look at the information required on the application and affidavit.
Anybody else see what I see?


But, let's take a look at the leadership of the city, one Mrs Joyce Downing: http://www.northglenn.org/mayor-joyce-downing Oops, "Access Denied"! I wonder why?
Maybe I can find a little more:

Joyce's work over the past four years:
• Balanced City budget
• Began development of the Webster Lake Promenade
• Development of Wal-Mart in Northglenn
• Welcomed the opening of AutoNation and a one-of-a-kind Starbucks in Northglenn
• Implemented the Recycling program for Northglenn
• Development of the pedestrian underpass on Washington street and Garland
• Actively working with school district to improve education for all of our young residents
• Established the Utility Assistance Program
• Completion of a city Skate Park
• Active in city Business Recognition and Retention
• Annual Business Recognition Breakfast
• Maintains Regional Working Relationships to retain Northglenn’s visibility & creditability in the Denver region.
• North area Transportation Alliance, “Nata”, vice chair & boardmember
• Supported the building of managed lanes between highway 36 & 120th on I-25 to relieve traffic congestion
• Supports completion of the North Metro corridor of FasTracks project from Denver Union Station to 160th
• Supports the establishment of Transportation District
• Vice chair of Smart Commute MetroNorth, to bring alternate methods of transportation to Northglenn and surrounding areas
• Secretary for the Urban Drainage & Flood Control
• Chair for Adams County Cultural Council
• Member of the Metro Mayors Caucus
• Member of the Denver Regional Council of Governments “Drcog”
• Northglenn Historic Preservation Commission & Foundation
• Diligently works for the Enhancement & Preservation of city assets
• Pursing Deza Estates as a Historic District
• Pursued the computer upgrade of grant applications as Chair of the Northglenn VALE board
• Vice Chair of the Rocky Flats Advisory Board
• Instrumental in bringing a satellite center for Ralston House Advocacy Center to Northglenn
• National League of cities, Public Safety and crime Prevention Committee
• National League of Cities Women in Municipal Government
• Nominated for the Mary Ciancio Distinguished Service Award
• CML Graduate award

Amazingly missing is this: http://mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/...mbers.shtml#CO

Mayor Matthew Appelbaum
Boulder, CO
Mayor Michael B. Hancock
Denver, CO
Mayor Randy P. Penn
Englewood, CO
Mayor Marjorie Sloan
Golden, CO
Mayor Carolyn Cutler
Lafayette, CO
Mayor Bob Murphy
Lakewood, CO
Mayor Robert Muckle
Louisville, CO
Mayor Marc A. Snyder
Manitou Springs, CO
Mayor Joe Gierlach
Nederland, CO
Mayor Joyce Downing
Northglenn, CO
Mayor Don Stephens
Salida, CO
Mayor Andrew Muckle
Superior, CO
Mayor Stuart Fraser
Telluride, CO

Just another step

[Great-Kazoo]

fuk her. i'll take the reimbursement . I like filling out forms.

[Monky]

You affirm to allow the city to verify the 'installation' not the contents.

You're receiving money from the .gov for securing your firearms... They want to see it in place... I don't see anything about what it contains

Maybe they'll do that with food stamps. Welfare and all the other hand outs.


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

[Great-Kazoo]

You affirm to allow the city to verify the 'installation' not the contents.

You're receiving money from the .gov for securing your firearms... They want to see it in place... I don't see anything about what it contains

Maybe they'll do that with food stamps. Welfare and all the other hand outs.


Sent by a free-range electronic weasel, with no sense of personal space.

Firearms we want oversight. Drug testing for welfare recipients. NEVER HAPPEN that's infringing on their rights.

[BPTactical]

You affirm to allow the city to verify the 'installation' not the contents.

Other than the city having a list of gunowners............In a city with it's Mayor a MAIG member...

[OtterbatHellcat]

Yeah, the list of the gun owning participants part does suck.

[jhood001]

Well, she is a MAIG member, so screw her. Regardless, I think it is a great program. I've been saying for a while that if government really wanted to do something post Sandy Hook, that would actually do something to keep guns out of the hands of people who weren't meant to have them, they would do something just like this. So long as they don't have to watch you put guns in it, I don't see the harm.

Non-gun owners subsidizing gun owners safe purchases? Safes they probably want anyway? Sure, why not. They want to 'spread the wealth' everywhere else. Let them do it here. Lord only knows how much we have all spent for others under Cash For Clunkers, etc. etc.

[jhood001]

Other than the city having a list of gunowners............In a city with it's Mayor a MAIG member...

Oh, good point.

[merl]

Anyone who thinks there is not such a list available from multiple commercial vendors for a nominal fee is fooling themselves.

That inspection should have a maximum cut off date though. You get that you have given the city a one time free entry pass.

[Irving]

You don't have to own guns to buy/own a safe. Lots of other stuff worth locking up.