backround check

[milwaukeeshaker]

Nah. I seemed to have missed that one. The libs use it so frequently on everthing, I've come to ignore the B.S. unless I step in it.

[BPTactical]

Cmon buddy, get a glove and get in the game!

[StagLefty]

"the Catalina Magdalena Hoopensteiner Wallabeiner Song"
Zundfolge-could you hum a few bars of that ?

[Clint45]

BGC does not apply to any firearm over 50 years old. Curios, relics, and antiques are specifically exempted.

[Justin]

One of the proposals I've put forward in lieu of background checks would be this:

1.) If you're a prohibited person, your driver's license/state ID is conspicuously marked in such a way as to show that you're not allowed to have a gun.

2.) Make it a legal requirement that in all F2F transactions, the seller must check the buyer's ID for that mark. No mark? Good to go. Didn't check, or sold a gun to a person with a marked ID, and you get caught? Go to jail.

Such a system would be much faster, cheaper, and more equitable than forcing everyone to go through a centralized background check process. Additionally, it would work to empower gun owners to act as the first line of defense in keeping guns out of the hands of those who shouldn't have them.

But, since BGCs aren't about preventing crime, you'd never see such a system get any sort of traction.

[merl]

One of the proposals I've put forward in lieu of background checks would be this: 1.) If you're a prohibited person, your driver's license/state ID is conspicuously marked in such a way as to show that you're not allowed to have a gun.

And everyone that ever sees your ID now knows there is something wrong with you. I have yet to see a good way to do that that doesnt morph into a gun license or violate privacy.

[Justin]

The privacy violation you mention would be an issue. Certainly it's not a silver bullet, but I'd rather deal with that sort of system than BGCs.

In any event, using that proposal has won me points when arguing with people who retort with "You're against background checks because you want to arm criminals and lunatics!"

[Zundfolge]

Justin's idea is better than BGCs because it burdens the criminals, not the law abiding ... but as he said these laws aren't about preventing crime, they're about vexing the law abiding.


Just had an idea ... put the "Prohibited Person" endorsement on the BACK of their license. Then they're not showing everyone at their bank, liquor store, etc that they're a prohibited person.

[O2HeN2]

If you're not in jail, you shouldn't be a "prohibited person", period. Last time I read the second amendment it didn't say "..., except for felons." at the end. Buy that first abridgement, and you have no principle on which to argue against any other restrictions.

O2

[spqrzilla]

Felony convictions and convictions of misdemeanors of domestic violence are what make one a prohibited person. And those are public record, they can be discovered for less than ten bucks, there is no "privacy" issue.